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[–] [email protected] 92 points 7 months ago (35 children)

Had an older co-worker who kept saying that Andrew Tate had some real gems and that he was just telling young men to give up videogames and hit the gym if they wanted some self worth.

So one day I looked him dead in the eye and gave him my best impersonation of a 1950's radio voice and said. " Young ladies if you don't work on refining and improving your womanly figure with clean living and labourous exercise and not stop wasting your time reading novels then how will you ever expect to catch a husband?!"

I would like to say that I scored a point but he just sputtered and went on being horrible.

[+] [email protected] -51 points 7 months ago (33 children)

Andrew Tate is the absolute worst, but it is also a fact - one that has been true for all of recorded history - that competing with each other for female attention is a generally popular male motivation. And when a guy doesn't do those things, he can expect mockery. Do you have anything nice to say about neckbeards? No? Didn't think so.

[+] [email protected] -17 points 7 months ago (21 children)

You're being downvoted for pointing out human nature. You're not wrong, we compete for females. We're animals, even if people want to lie and claim we've progressed. We have not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Nature" doesn't have any rigid set of rules that push us to be anything specific, in fact it's very much the opposite resulting in evolution and adaptation that is constantly interfering with the traits getting passed down. Sure we have biological mechanisms resulting from this that will reward us for things that tend to increase the population over time, because individuals that didn't were unlikely to reproduce, but even those aren't consistent from individual to individual, and are regularly suppressed and regulated in response to changing environments as would be seen in nature. Nature is constantly and relentlessly progressing, it's just slow on a human timescale.

Science and nature are not forcing you or anyone to be misogynistic, that's just the excuse many have decided to use so they don't have to confront themselves or the complicated societal issues behind it.