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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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"Walt Bismarck," a neoreactionary/alt-right blogger, decided to live by his beliefs and move from the liberal hellhole of Arizona to the midwest:

In 2018 I moved from a racially diverse swing state in the Sun Belt to a homogenous red state up in corn country. This decision was largely motivated by politics—I was looking to retreat to an imagined hyperborea free of crime and degeneracy where my volk had political autonomy.

The particular delight here is the section "Reason #3 - White people are no longer my most important ingroup".

It turns out they don't like him, they don't like his ideas, and the white womenfolk don't take to him. The frauleins prefer "stoic chudbots with rough hands and smooth brains" over his noble mind and physique.

In practice a society that encourages late marriage is actually much better for more bookish eccentric guys, who tend to be late bloomers in developing their masculinity and ability to seduce women.

(meaning: he came on weird at one of the nice church girls he was ogling to the point where one of her large guy friends suggested he take his leave.)

Our guy comes so close to introspection, but successfully evades it and reaches the root cause - these are the wrong kind of white people:

But these Midwesterners aren’t descended from entrepreneurial adventurers like the rest of us. Their forebears were conflict averse and probably low testosterone German Catholics who fled Bismarck’s kulturkampf to acquire cheap land under the Homestead Act. These people mostly settled areas where aggro Scotch Irish types had driven off the Injun decades ago, so they never had to embrace the risk-tolerant, enterprising, itinerant mindset that had once fueled Manifest Destiny. Instead they produced families that became weirdly attached to their generic little plot of fungible prairie dirt, and as a result we now have huge pockets of the country full of overcivilized and effete Teutons with no conquering spirit who treat outsiders like shit.

There is no shortage of genuine and active neo-Nazis out Iowa way. But they would have met Wordy NRx Boy here and flushed his head.

In the comments section, other racists call him out on his insufficient devotion to the cause of white nationalism.

Even our good friends at The Motte took the piss out of him.

The illustrations are, of course, AI-generated.

original post. Found on Bluesky by ratelimitexceeder.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

update: yeah, @[email protected] is fine, though they’re being followed around on kbin by a rather aggressive fascist spewing shit like:

You’re clearly not, as you jump on anyone you even slightly perceive as against your narrative even if they’re calling out blatant corruption and illegal action that will damage institutions and all of its credibility for generations to come.

Sounds like you’re the fascist, but again all the readers can clearly see that

Hope this helps 😊

I’m gonna report this shit, though I don’t know if lemmy reports federate with kbin (and knowing lemmy, they don’t). is kbin alright? this seems like a pretty clear-cut ban for an instance with moderation that’s paying any attention at all

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

An aside, I can see that both commentators in this thread who have kbin.social handles don't have fully qualified handles. Is that because kbin.social is somehow more federated than other instances?

I've been using the presence of a domain in handles to quickly check if the commenter has an account here or is a drive-by.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

so it’s kind of the opposite of that — lemmy’s standard behavior is to hide the domain if either:

  • the user is local to your instance
  • the user has a display name set (many lemmy posters don’t, so it defaults to @username[@domain] instead)

kbin’s default behavior fucks that up a bit by telling lemmy that the display name is the poster’s username regardless of anything. but now that I’ve written it out, lemmy’s behavior here is very inconsistent and has tripped me up a ton in the past. for example, a lot of masto posters seem local but aren’t, because display names are very common among mastodon users

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think the indicator for this is supposed to be the weird rainbow net icon next to the name? which I never look at to be honest because it looks like a shitty share button I never use in an app that I hate

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

that's a permalink to that comment on authors instance, like https://awful.systems/comment/2713351

this is to the right to permalink to that comment on your instance, in my case it's https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/8629221

it's also an indicator of non-localness, because these two are the same when these instances are the same. but this works only by an accident and there will be many exciting ways where it breaks

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
  • 🙅 showing basic information on the frontend like an icon representing the value of the post’s local flag
  • 👉 starting a ridiculously ugly wikipedia clone which appears to be designed for the express purpose of spreading misinformation in a way that can’t be moderated
[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

fyi lemmy has now local communities that is communities where only local accounts can do things, this should work reasonably well for things like agora at sh.itjust.works

also yeah lmao all the problems mentioned will only get worse with federation

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

OK thanks for pointing out the LGBT spiderweb icon, I'll look for that for a slightly more reliable indicator of non-localness (bearing in mind the sister comment from @[email protected]).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I recall kbin coming up a few times before so it’s probably wider open? Anecdata at best here, tho, you’re probably better geared to tell than I am

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don’t interact with it much (actually I’m kinda surprised it’s federating with us now — not sure if lemmy or kbin fixed whatever was broken) but from the outside it seems like a flagship fediverse instance: way bigger than anyone can effectively moderate

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

on top of any lemmy/kbin/whatever instances lacking moderation in general iirc kbin was made in such a way that there's only one instance admin. in this specific case this admin is also kbin developer so kinda they don't do moderating at all

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I am once again asking the authors of fediverse software to consider moderation structures that make any fucking sense at all