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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Its also getting the content creators onto the new platform. Thats a bigger challenge I think, without creators it's a dead site really, and making videos is significantly more difficult than image or text posting.

For storage, if we assume the format would be WebM at 1080p, 60fps and 20 minutes in length, it turns out to about 1GB. Even a cheap VPS instance usually offer 50GB of storage (with not too expensive storage upgrades).

So if its distributed evenly, we can host a good bit of videos (nothing compared to YouTube though).

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its nearly impossible to replicate what YouTube it is today. The amount of storage and bandwith require is immense, also the creators coming up to a new platform without a way to get money it will really hard to have something like YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its nearly impossible to replicate what YouTube it is today.

Why would we want to? People want to replace Youtube because Youtube sucks ass. Replacing it with another monetized platform will only ever lead to the same place Youtube is at now.

It sucks that people who managed to make a living from their hobby have gotten fucked over, but until we have some major regulatory and economic overhauls, that's just how it works. Changing platforms is not a solution to that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Because what's the point otherwise. Let's just make a YouTube without videos. That will surely work.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Let's not forget that there's money to be earned by being a youtube person. Creating a model that would make this possible in a federated approach would be bonkers as hell and probably just invite predatory dipshits who then lure creators with seemingly good offers and then start to hold them hostage in ways YouTube hasn't dared so far.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lure creators with seemingly good offers and then start to hold them hostage in ways YouTube hasn't dared so far.

Like Smosh?

Young up and coomers, first giants on YouTube. Sold their channel and brand for stock. Then were tied to the company for years who worked them like dogs. Until the company that bought them went bankrupt so their stock was nullified and they in the end sold their company for $0.

I wouldn't say YouTube was free from it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Young up and coomers

I don't think that word means what you think it means

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It was intentional

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most professional YouTubers survive primarily off of Patreon support and sponsored videos. YouTube ads provide only a small fraction of what they earn. If they could increase their Patreon or sponsorship income by cross-posting to PeerTube, then they could be enticed to do so. The current issue there is that sponsors are going to want accurate analytics, and PeerTube isn't going to be able to offer the kind of depth of audience analysis that YouTube can.

The problem is, the cost of hosting videos -- both in terms of storage and in terms of bandwidth -- is kind of prohibitive. That part needs to be solved.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The reality is that most content creators will not switch platforms because it guarantees a significant loss of viewership. Ad reads won't pay much if you're only talking to a fraction of your audience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

good. i don't want capitalist advertising bs on the internet anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I agree in spirit, what other option is there in a capitalist society? Paying a subscription fee for every single service or every single content creator? Not sure people are going to go for that en masse.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

So if its distributed evenly, we can host a good bit of videos (nothing compared to YouTube though).

I read 500 hours of content are uploaded to YouTube every minute. Obviously a lot of that is low quality, but we're still talking a lot of content unless we're suggesting the creators host it themselves (which could work for a small subset of folks if it were enough of a turnkey solution).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

60fps

Correct me if I’m wrong but I would guess that the majority of YouTube videos are at 30fps, right? I only want 60fps for gaming/sports clips

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah the majority are 30 I think

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Convincing content creators to upload their videos to multiple platforms will be easy, as will uploading their old work

You just end up with a chicken and egg situation with viewers and creators.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The fediverse doesn't make money and it shouldn't. YouTube is fine unless some other business makes a decent competitor.