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Tim Sweeney emailed Gabe Newell calling Valve 'you assholes' over Steam policies, to which Valve's COO replied internally 'you mad bro?' (www.pcgamer.com)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Epic charges you 5% of revenue after a million dollars to use the entirety of Unreal engine. 30% for a store with an add on market is not reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And how's that going for them? Have they stopped running at a loss yet?

Come back to me when Tim Sweeny has a viable business strategy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And how’s that going for them?

Excellently, Unreal Engine makes a huge amount of money for them.

Have they stopped running at a loss yet?

You're probably thinking of the Epic Games Store, not Unreal Engine, and it would be grossly profitable at 12% commission if it had the established infrastructure and sales numbers that Steam does, it's only not profitable because they are still developing and building infrastructure and they basically just sell Fortnite and Rocket League.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was only talking about Epic Game Store, not Unreal.

But on that matter, Valve charges much less for their engine, and is often free for indie devs.

EGS would be grossly profitable if they had a good service, but they don't because their platform is shit.

"They basically just sell Fortnite and Rocket League"

So, has anything changed in the past 3 years or are they just doing the exact same thing, hoping something would change?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

But on that matter, Valve charges much less for their engine, and is often free for indie devs.

If you're talking about the Source Engine, they're really, really not comparable. The Source Engine hasn't even been updated since 2013.

EGS would be grossly profitable if they had a good service, but they don’t because their platform is shit. What are they supposed to do?

How would you convince gamers to use your store instead of Steam? There are reasons that anti-monopoly laws don't care how you got your monopoly, once you have one it's problematic because it makes nearly impossible for competition to form against you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

The engine is all besides the point, though there are games like Apex Legends which use the Source Engine and are just great.

How would I convince gamers to use my platform instead of Steam?

For starters, act in good faith. For all the issues you raise with Steam, at least they aren't fighting anyone for exclusivity rights.

Transferring Rocket League and Payday2 to Epic fucked the community so hard they have split the player pool.

They could offer some basic community tools, and features which every other store has had for years.