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Please, please, please, don’t be caffeine! 🤞
Coffee has been around for thousands of years but I'm pretty sure %100 pure caffeine could kill if you ingested enough at once
It's not the purity, it's the dose, like any chemical the dose makes the poison.
The FDA recommends staying under 5 cups (400 mg) a day to avoid negative effects with an average person.
It says toxic effects can be observed with rapid consumption of 12 cups, or 0.15 tablespoons of pure caffeine. https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/spilling-beans-how-much-caffeine-too-much
This mystery can be resolved by googling 'ld50 caffeine.' ~750mg is toxic and 10,000mg can kill people
Same as cocaine
Yes, caffeine can kill. https://www.livescience.com/caffeine-overdose-200-cups-of-coffee
Caffeine isn't terrible for you in moderate amounts, and coffee is actually a decent source or antioxidants especially if you don't get them elsewhere in your diet, but this is independent of caffeine itself (decaf has antioxidants). Daily high doses of caffeine is definitely bad for your health, and can negatively impact other health issues you may have such as anxiety, depression, etc. Do your research, talk to your doctor, and consider decreasing your daily intake.
What's the threshold for "high doses"?
What's the threshold for "high doses"?
According to Google, 400 mg (~4 cups of coffee or 10 cans of soda) per day is when you run into health risks, while 1200 mg in a short time span is overdose territory.
If you're drinking 10 cans of soda a day you got much bigger problems than caffeine.
True. But I could see some people reaching 400 mg with like two coffees, an energy drink, and a couple cans of soda.
Too bad they don’t list caffeine on the nutrition facts. Who knows how much you get.
For what, soda? Looking at a Mountain Dew right now and it says 54mg caffeine. It’s next to the nutrition facts but not in the box itself
Cool, I’ll look for it. I haven’t bought soda in many years. More interested in coffee. I still don’t know if “breakfast coffee” has more or less than “half caff”.
Breakfast blend is unspecific, but it's a mix of normal, not decaf coffee, aimed at being smooth, not too bold or acidic etc. Half caff is a blend of decaf and normal beans, so breakfast will have approximately twice as much caffeine. Light/dark roast and specific coffee bean type used will vary the caffeine levels.
I should have specified I specifically mean Folgers. I can see that the way you make it will affect the caffeine level. But they should still specify a amount for if it is made in a “standardized” way. That at least lets you compare things by their labels, while standing there in the store. Folgers only says their half calf is “darker” than breakfast, which I assume just means the flavor.
Yeah that's flavour.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/food-nutrition/food-safety/food-additives/caffeine-foods.html
Caffeine content has been listed for years on drinks, just not in the nutrition box.
I'm no scientist, but I've been in the coffee industry for a long time. I would say more than 500mg per day is a lot. 200-300mg per day seems to be a nice sweet spot. That's about 12-16oz of brewed specialty coffee.
Once again, I'm not a food scientist, but I believe other ingredients you find in energy drinks can compound the effects of caffeine. Similar to how alcohol mixed with certain medications with fuck up your liver really fast.