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So many of us came here from Reddit because we felt burned by them, and the whole monolithic architecture feels like it risks getting corporatized. I came to a federated place because it seems much less likely to have that happen. Not really interested in that model currently.
Yeah. Giving big corporations control over what other people say or think and allowing them the power to warp people's perception of consensus is guaranteed to put them at odds with their user base. And it's always a matter of time before that ends up affecting your particular user group. For what it's worth I have no interest in controlling what people say or think.
I don't know if that fully answered your question. Basically I think the line between good and bad is whether or not you are dealing with a large corporation. Federation is just one way of ensuring that. Then other is just not using corporate social media in general and you end up on the right side of the line in either case.
In some ways the web itself is decentralized. Not decentralized is when the users of the internet become concentrated on the 20 biggest sites. That's what gives you reddit. Being an element of a large decentralized whole without contributing to concentration is a kind of decentralized. My interest is to make the web itself more decentralized (less concentrated) and increase the diversity of algorithms and distinct communities people see the world through and interact with.
Either way it's something I made and people can check it out. That's what I love about the web as a layer of decentralization. Not many other kinds of decentralization let you do that.
That's what the founders of Reddit believed when they started. We all jumped ship from Digg because Digg became too corporate and greedy, and Reddit was our safe haven.
Now here we are, over a decade later, and we're jumping ship again because Reddit has become too corporate and greedy.
Lemmy has the advantage of being decentralized, with no single person or corporation running it, and you're proposing a Reddit clone, run by an individual? Honestly, I love the ideas you have for Matrix, I love what you've accomplished with it, and I love your optimism for the site. But I've been burned too many times in the past by hopeful honest innovators who let money and power slowly corrupt them over time. Unless you can add your site to the federation, I'm gonna have to pass, even as enticing as your site looks now. I'm too jaded to trust a single entity/corporation to host social media content.
Just wait. ;-)
Wait... what? Reddit is not a "big corporation". Reddit also doesn't have control over what people say, let alone think. Moderation on Reddit is done by the community.
Honestly I think your service sounds even worse than Reddit. Sure, you're not as big but neither was reddit when they first started out. Unlike reddit it looks like your service does directly control things? You've got one policy for the whole site dictating acceptable content, while Reddit has thousands of policies created by users.
Ultimately I think the Lemmy is the right approach to this type of website. If you think you can do a better job then Lemmy, then by all means go ahead. But I think being on the fediverse is table stakes.
How big is big? They’re working on a 6.5 billion dollar valuation. Sure, that’s not S&P 500, but that’s not your mom and pop coffee shop.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/01/reddit-seeking-a-valuation-of-up-to-6point5-billion-in-ipo.html