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U.S. to decide soon on GM's request to deploy cars without steering wheels::U.S. regulators will soon decide on a petition filed by General Motors' Cruise self-driving technology unit seeking permission to deploy up to 2,500 self-driving vehicles annually without human controls, a top auto safety official said on Wednesday.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First off you can knock off that arrogant way of speaking right now. I have been building, repairing, designing automated systems for the past 15 years of my life and none of us call humans meat machines.

Secondly when you are talking about automation being better what you really mean is the human who wrote the software. Which is often the case is me. Software is dogshit and always has been. A big part of my job is having to explain to process engineers and project managers why I made something less automated not more. Operations needs a way to get out of crisis, this is why you allow manual overrides. Operations also needs to be able to alter process, this is why you separate recipes from functionality. The goal is to enhance the human, not to do something for them. Man on a bicycle metaphor you can read up for yourself.

I have no idea what double redundancy means. Why don't you explain it exactly? I could use a laugh.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

none of us call humans meat machines.

I phrased it that way for emphasis, I didn't think that anyone would assume I was trying to use industry lingo when I call humans "meat machines".

Second, I'm also a developer, I write code for a living, I doubt that's particularly rare on the fediverse. Yes, sometimes I write shitty code, but that shitty code still runs at a million times the speed that I can think, it can be proven for accuracy, and when it has been will make fewer mistakes than I do. There are a lot of things that computers are just better at than we could ever be, regardless of the quality of the code that it's running. There's also a lot of things that humans are great at, I wasn't trying to undermine that fact, I was just trying to emphasize that there's really no reason to think that driving can or should be one of those things. We give teenagers licenses after a week of drivers ed, we get distracted while driving, we drive under the influence of drugs, we fall asleep, we have strokes and heart attacks. Driving is something that we're statisticallyvery bad at.

Operations needs a way to get out of crisis, this is why you allow manual overrides

Sure, and there will always be manual overrides, but it won't rely on whatever passenger happens to be sitting in the vehicle (if any), it will be handled by an employee in an operations center. That's what they're doing now, which is why the steering wheel isn't necessary.

I have no idea what double redundancy means

Yeah that was a dumb way to phrase that. I apologize for failing to have my lemmy comment properly peer reviewed before posting it

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Hey next time try using phrases for accuracy not emphasis. You get taken seriously that way instead of being seen as a troll out of their lane.

I write code for a living,

I am sure your Facebook game is very nice.

Sure, and there will always be manual overrides, but it won’t rely on whatever passenger happens to be sitting in the vehicle (if any), it will be handled by an employee in an operations center.

Sure just give him a call when it falls into a river or catches on fire. Your call is very important to us, please stay on the line. Doo Doo Doo. Do you know you can get most of your questions answered online?

Yeah that was a dumb way to phrase that. I apologize for failing to have my lemmy comment properly peer reviewed before posting it

Just go get a job doing what I do. Spend the next decade and a half automating big scary machines. You will learn a lot.