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I refuse to believe the europeans are so stupid to go to war with Russia. By their own admission the armed forces of basically all of NATO countries are in such a bad state that it will take decades to recover. No european NATO country has the military industrial capacity to compete with Russia, let alone win. And what little they have in stock already has been transfered to Ukraine. Specially in the case of Germany and the UK. What are they going to do? Fight Russia with the old Soviet and Warsaw pact equipment, run out of it the first week and then buy sone more from Russia? Chauvinism is no replacement for armor and ammo. Why would they think they can fight? Just because the gringos are cheering on them?! I do believe Europe has an enormous debt to the global south, but not to the point of continetal suicide and global catastrophe.
The media keeps telling them that each "Saint javelin" (actual circulating meme) takes a gazillion orcs every time it's used, likewise for every destroyed leopard or Bradley. The leap from this to "sure, it's in Bad shape, but together we shall persevere!" is not that far away.
Not everyone in Russia understands this, much less in Europe
I also didn't believed they will commit economical seppuku since 2022 but they did, and many does so enthusiatically.
They absolutely are stupid enough and the libs will absolutely join the ~~dumbledore's~~ army to fight the evil Putler!
If by join the army you mean continue to post on reddit sure.
But the libs believe very strongly that OTHER PEOPLE should give up their lives for some eastern European farmland.
They think they can fight because their plan is to start the fight and count on America's inability to avoid getting dragged into a war where they could sell a bunch of underequipped countries arms.
If Trump’s re-elected and continues his anti-NATO position they’re fucked. Not that he wouldn’t open new fronts in the war against the world.
Literally one general in uniform would have to go "huh didn't realize you were such a chicken." And they could get trump to sign off on literally any military action they want.
Yeah Trump is a contrarian, not a dove
I don't know, we already have that arrangement with Israel. We can't exactly be everywhere.
They can try, at least. If it's to happen (I hope it doesn't for the sheer destruction it would cause, though every day seeing what goes on in Gaza, I won't deny a small part of me can't help but wish for it as well) I hope the empire is truly overstretched, its forces diluted, and its arsenals and morale as diminished as possible going into the fight.
Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine... they're certainly setting themselves up for a world war while the entire global south is increasingly rising up in (socioeconomic) revolt.
The really crazy thing is that they keep underestimating how smart China is and think they'll take the bait and get dragged into a pointless forever war in Taiwan. If that war breaks out, there's nothing to stop the PRC from just unloading on exclusively American targets
Europeans fighting zero-sum wars is historically accurate.
I think France is stupid enough but Germany did say they wouldn’t drop troops in Ukraine so I think that’s admission of not wanting a direct war with Russia on their end. I do think the US and Canada are stupid enough to push it, though.
What Germany thinks and wants is irrelevant. They will do as they are told by Washington. They didn't even dare speak up about the US blowing up their main energy supply pipeline. They are a completely subjugated vassal state.
Yeah, you’re right. At the end of the day they will follow their handlers to their own detriment. It’s a terrifying reality for everyone involved, Europe and North America. With the UK implementing a draft, I wonder which other countries will follow…
The germans were stupid enough to let the US blow up the pipeline they invested in, they are absolutely stupid enough.