▲ 527 ▼ How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (openrss.org) submitted 2 years ago by rottenwheel@monero.town to c/technology@lemmy.world 54 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 115 points 2 years ago (14 children) I still miss Google Reader And the internet as a whole moving away from RSS feeds in general is also not helpful permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] cyd@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago (5 children) The crazy thing is, they had a nascent social network going with Google Reader, populated by people who were engaged and interested in the content. And they threw it all away to chase a Facebook clone, which was doomed anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] jonne@infosec.pub 34 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could've had basically Reddit if they added a way to have comments in Google reader. Then again, they would've never invested in moderation, so it probably would've turned into a shitheap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cyd@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) they would've never invested in moderation, so it probably would've turned into a shitheap. i.e., basically Reddit! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 2 years ago Reddit tricked their own users into doing the moderating, that was their great innovation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago Google+ could have been successful to a degree, in terms of features it was an improvement over Facebook in several ways. The problem was the invite only launch. The invite period worked for Gmail because it was still interoperable with other email services, and made getting a Gmail address seem exclusive and desirable. Making a walled garden social network invite only, however, just lead to it being empty. Most who did sign up looked around for a few minutes then went back to Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent [–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago They just seem to make wacky brain-dead decisions all the time and nobody really understands why they make the decisions they do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grte@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 years ago (4 children) They only thought they moved away from RSS feeds. A whole bunch of the internet is built on Wordpress which publishes an RSS feed by default at website.url/rss or website.url/feed. Which means a shitload of sites are running feeds even if they don't advertise it (or realize it). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most good podcasts offer an RSS feed too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago Podcasts by definition are all RSS based, but Spotify, Amazon and other VC based distributors are trying to change that with subscription and exclusive content. Even those are still announced via RSS I believe though. permalink fedilink source parent [+] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago True. But they did make it more difficult to discover RSS feeds by removing all those features. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jared@mander.xyz 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) The end of reader got me started on reddit . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bangs42@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Got me started on Feedly. Still haven't left, although I'd be surprised if I still had more than a couple of the same feeds from then. permalink fedilink source parent [–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Honestly, yeah I think that's how it worked for me too. Reddit wasn't exactly the same, but depending on how you curated your subreddits, it could fill a similar role. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cyd@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago (5 children) The crazy thing is, they had a nascent social network going with Google Reader, populated by people who were engaged and interested in the content. And they threw it all away to chase a Facebook clone, which was doomed anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] jonne@infosec.pub 34 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could've had basically Reddit if they added a way to have comments in Google reader. Then again, they would've never invested in moderation, so it probably would've turned into a shitheap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cyd@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) they would've never invested in moderation, so it probably would've turned into a shitheap. i.e., basically Reddit! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 2 years ago Reddit tricked their own users into doing the moderating, that was their great innovation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago Google+ could have been successful to a degree, in terms of features it was an improvement over Facebook in several ways. The problem was the invite only launch. The invite period worked for Gmail because it was still interoperable with other email services, and made getting a Gmail address seem exclusive and desirable. Making a walled garden social network invite only, however, just lead to it being empty. Most who did sign up looked around for a few minutes then went back to Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent [–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago They just seem to make wacky brain-dead decisions all the time and nobody really understands why they make the decisions they do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 34 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could've had basically Reddit if they added a way to have comments in Google reader. Then again, they would've never invested in moderation, so it probably would've turned into a shitheap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cyd@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) they would've never invested in moderation, so it probably would've turned into a shitheap. i.e., basically Reddit! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 2 years ago Reddit tricked their own users into doing the moderating, that was their great innovation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cyd@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) they would've never invested in moderation, so it probably would've turned into a shitheap. i.e., basically Reddit! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 2 years ago Reddit tricked their own users into doing the moderating, that was their great innovation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 2 years ago Reddit tricked their own users into doing the moderating, that was their great innovation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago Google+ could have been successful to a degree, in terms of features it was an improvement over Facebook in several ways. The problem was the invite only launch. The invite period worked for Gmail because it was still interoperable with other email services, and made getting a Gmail address seem exclusive and desirable. Making a walled garden social network invite only, however, just lead to it being empty. Most who did sign up looked around for a few minutes then went back to Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago They just seem to make wacky brain-dead decisions all the time and nobody really understands why they make the decisions they do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grte@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 years ago (4 children) They only thought they moved away from RSS feeds. A whole bunch of the internet is built on Wordpress which publishes an RSS feed by default at website.url/rss or website.url/feed. Which means a shitload of sites are running feeds even if they don't advertise it (or realize it). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most good podcasts offer an RSS feed too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago Podcasts by definition are all RSS based, but Spotify, Amazon and other VC based distributors are trying to change that with subscription and exclusive content. Even those are still announced via RSS I believe though. permalink fedilink source parent [+] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago True. But they did make it more difficult to discover RSS feeds by removing all those features. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most good podcasts offer an RSS feed too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago Podcasts by definition are all RSS based, but Spotify, Amazon and other VC based distributors are trying to change that with subscription and exclusive content. Even those are still announced via RSS I believe though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago Podcasts by definition are all RSS based, but Spotify, Amazon and other VC based distributors are trying to change that with subscription and exclusive content. Even those are still announced via RSS I believe though. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago True. But they did make it more difficult to discover RSS feeds by removing all those features. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jared@mander.xyz 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) The end of reader got me started on reddit . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bangs42@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Got me started on Feedly. Still haven't left, although I'd be surprised if I still had more than a couple of the same feeds from then. permalink fedilink source parent [–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Honestly, yeah I think that's how it worked for me too. Reddit wasn't exactly the same, but depending on how you curated your subreddits, it could fill a similar role. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bangs42@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago Got me started on Feedly. Still haven't left, although I'd be surprised if I still had more than a couple of the same feeds from then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Honestly, yeah I think that's how it worked for me too. Reddit wasn't exactly the same, but depending on how you curated your subreddits, it could fill a similar role. permalink fedilink source parent