▲ 1429 ▼ English may be a hot mess but at least we don't have to worry about this nonsense (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by robocall@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 359 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (3 children) Polish speaker here. We not only have gendered nouns but also verbs and adjectives. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (5 children) Spanish speaker here. For as chaotic and wild as English is, I've always appreciated that it has no gendered nouns. Why are chairs female? Makes no sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Dick in French is, you guessed it, female. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gaael@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) As are mustache and balls. Meanwhile, bra, vagina and boobs are male. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Don't tell Republicans permalink fedilink source parent [–] pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) Maybe you are interested in Finnish. We do not have gendered pronouns either. Everyone is just "hän". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you're saying Hän is Solo? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Hän man is Speedy permalink fedilink source parent [–] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hold my Duolingo owl, I'm gonna look up Finnish that sounds awesome permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pseudo@jlai.lu 5 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] danielbln@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Clearly, because chairs are obviously male (German). Anything else is just silly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm sorry, French here, but a chair can be both. It depends of the type : Une chaise is obviously feminine while un siège or un fauteuil are definitely masculin. Also Germanic language like English and German mixing these two meaning are silly languages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why. Just why? It's just you French and your obsession for... la silla vs el asiento (Spanish) Fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago I think we just spotted a cultural fracture btw people of Romance language and the one of Germanic language. permalink fedilink source parent [–] schteph@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, also, mice are obviously female. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago ... but rats aren't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Chairman, chairwoman, or chairperson? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago* Somone has to come up with the word chairdude. And some corporate bean counter will invent the word chairhuman to show how diverse they are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Teon@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Employee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago Grammatical genders are just that. Grammatical. It's a classification scheme. Latin had neutral nouns and plenty of languages make grammatical differences between animate and inanimate nouns. That current romance languages make a deliberate division between "male" and "female" nouns does not mean they have to correspond to actual features of human beings. That being said. It's ridiculous that agua is femenine but with the definite article it has to be el agua in singular but las aguas in plural. All the explanations by RAE simply amounts to "we like it this way, lolol". permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago polish speaker too, polish is weird smh permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How does that work out? I mean in french you'd gender it by what it is defining. A yellow car, the "A" is gendered the same as the cars gender. Oh. I think I get it. That must be confusing for foreigners! Cheers Polish brothers and sisters! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hOrni@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah. Having pronouns would be too easy. We are changing the end of the word. Yellow would be "żółty" if male, "żółta" if female and "żółte" if genderless or plural. Unless male plural, then it would be "żółci". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 point 2 years ago So a bit like French maybe, faché, fachée, fachés or fachées for example depending on gender and numbers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (5 children) Spanish speaker here. For as chaotic and wild as English is, I've always appreciated that it has no gendered nouns. Why are chairs female? Makes no sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Dick in French is, you guessed it, female. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gaael@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) As are mustache and balls. Meanwhile, bra, vagina and boobs are male. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Don't tell Republicans permalink fedilink source parent [–] pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) Maybe you are interested in Finnish. We do not have gendered pronouns either. Everyone is just "hän". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you're saying Hän is Solo? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Hän man is Speedy permalink fedilink source parent [–] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hold my Duolingo owl, I'm gonna look up Finnish that sounds awesome permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pseudo@jlai.lu 5 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] danielbln@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Clearly, because chairs are obviously male (German). Anything else is just silly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm sorry, French here, but a chair can be both. It depends of the type : Une chaise is obviously feminine while un siège or un fauteuil are definitely masculin. Also Germanic language like English and German mixing these two meaning are silly languages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why. Just why? It's just you French and your obsession for... la silla vs el asiento (Spanish) Fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago I think we just spotted a cultural fracture btw people of Romance language and the one of Germanic language. permalink fedilink source parent [–] schteph@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, also, mice are obviously female. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago ... but rats aren't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Chairman, chairwoman, or chairperson? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago* Somone has to come up with the word chairdude. And some corporate bean counter will invent the word chairhuman to show how diverse they are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Teon@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Employee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago Grammatical genders are just that. Grammatical. It's a classification scheme. Latin had neutral nouns and plenty of languages make grammatical differences between animate and inanimate nouns. That current romance languages make a deliberate division between "male" and "female" nouns does not mean they have to correspond to actual features of human beings. That being said. It's ridiculous that agua is femenine but with the definite article it has to be el agua in singular but las aguas in plural. All the explanations by RAE simply amounts to "we like it this way, lolol". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Dick in French is, you guessed it, female. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gaael@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) As are mustache and balls. Meanwhile, bra, vagina and boobs are male. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Don't tell Republicans permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gaael@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) As are mustache and balls. Meanwhile, bra, vagina and boobs are male. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Don't tell Republicans permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago Don't tell Republicans permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) Maybe you are interested in Finnish. We do not have gendered pronouns either. Everyone is just "hän". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you're saying Hän is Solo? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Hän man is Speedy permalink fedilink source parent [–] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hold my Duolingo owl, I'm gonna look up Finnish that sounds awesome permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pseudo@jlai.lu 5 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you're saying Hän is Solo? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Hän man is Speedy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hold my Duolingo owl, I'm gonna look up Finnish that sounds awesome permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pseudo@jlai.lu 5 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Clearly, because chairs are obviously male (German). Anything else is just silly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm sorry, French here, but a chair can be both. It depends of the type : Une chaise is obviously feminine while un siège or un fauteuil are definitely masculin. Also Germanic language like English and German mixing these two meaning are silly languages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why. Just why? It's just you French and your obsession for... la silla vs el asiento (Spanish) Fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago I think we just spotted a cultural fracture btw people of Romance language and the one of Germanic language. permalink fedilink source parent [–] schteph@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, also, mice are obviously female. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago ... but rats aren't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm sorry, French here, but a chair can be both. It depends of the type : Une chaise is obviously feminine while un siège or un fauteuil are definitely masculin. Also Germanic language like English and German mixing these two meaning are silly languages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why. Just why? It's just you French and your obsession for... la silla vs el asiento (Spanish) Fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago I think we just spotted a cultural fracture btw people of Romance language and the one of Germanic language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why. Just why? It's just you French and your obsession for... la silla vs el asiento (Spanish) Fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago I think we just spotted a cultural fracture btw people of Romance language and the one of Germanic language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago I think we just spotted a cultural fracture btw people of Romance language and the one of Germanic language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schteph@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, also, mice are obviously female. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago ... but rats aren't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Chairman, chairwoman, or chairperson? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago* Somone has to come up with the word chairdude. And some corporate bean counter will invent the word chairhuman to show how diverse they are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Teon@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Employee. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago* Somone has to come up with the word chairdude. And some corporate bean counter will invent the word chairhuman to show how diverse they are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neutron 2 points 2 years ago Grammatical genders are just that. Grammatical. It's a classification scheme. Latin had neutral nouns and plenty of languages make grammatical differences between animate and inanimate nouns. That current romance languages make a deliberate division between "male" and "female" nouns does not mean they have to correspond to actual features of human beings. That being said. It's ridiculous that agua is femenine but with the definite article it has to be el agua in singular but las aguas in plural. All the explanations by RAE simply amounts to "we like it this way, lolol". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago polish speaker too, polish is weird smh permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How does that work out? I mean in french you'd gender it by what it is defining. A yellow car, the "A" is gendered the same as the cars gender. Oh. I think I get it. That must be confusing for foreigners! Cheers Polish brothers and sisters! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hOrni@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah. Having pronouns would be too easy. We are changing the end of the word. Yellow would be "żółty" if male, "żółta" if female and "żółte" if genderless or plural. Unless male plural, then it would be "żółci". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 point 2 years ago So a bit like French maybe, faché, fachée, fachés or fachées for example depending on gender and numbers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah. Having pronouns would be too easy. We are changing the end of the word. Yellow would be "żółty" if male, "żółta" if female and "żółte" if genderless or plural. Unless male plural, then it would be "żółci". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 point 2 years ago So a bit like French maybe, faché, fachée, fachés or fachées for example depending on gender and numbers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 point 2 years ago So a bit like French maybe, faché, fachée, fachés or fachées for example depending on gender and numbers. permalink fedilink source parent