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YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers (www.bleepingcomputer.com)
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[–] 15 points 3 years ago (32 children)

oh look, another web service who wants to strangle its users for money and ad views :D when's a peertube instance going to get some big creators on it supported by viewers? that'll do it, i bet

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Seems unlikely that a creator would jump ship from a platform that pays them to a platform that doesn’t. That being said, lots of creators also constantly complain about demonetization, so maybe they’ll start to get fed up and move to purely in-video sponsorship things. Seems most likely from a creator that’s already on a platform like nebula

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Most big youtubers have in-video ads now anyways. I'm not sure what the ratio of their revenue comes from youtube ads vs in-video ads, but youtube seems pretty trigger happy about demonetizing videos. Sometimes entire channels. If someone gets the majority of their revenue from other sources than youtube ads, I could see them migrating to something like peertube.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Even with in-video ads, those must be paid based on historical (or actual?) view counts right? No matter how big you are, there's no way you're going to maintain view counts when switching away from YouTube.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago*

    You're allowed to upload the same .mp4 file to multiple websites. There's absolutely no reason why a creator that isn't getting YouTube ad money couldn't upload to YouTube and PeerTube at the same time. Presumably if they're getting YouTube monetization, they have some kind of exclusivity agreement.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Unfortunately most people post to YouTube. They might not know about Peertube. So Peertube just doesn't have the content.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Here's to hoping as lemmy, mastodon, etc. get name recognition peertube gets their time of day too.

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  • [+] 3 points 3 years ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    From the documentation:

    A PeerTube instance can mirror other PeerTube videos to improve bandwidth use.

    The instance administrator can choose between multiple redundancy strategies (cache trending videos or recently uploaded videos etc.), set their maximum size and the minimum duplication lifetime. Then, they choose the instances they want to cache in Manage follows -> Following admin table.

    Videos are kept in the cache for at least min_lifetime, and then evicted when the cache is full.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Hopefully once the issue of the ridiculous amount of resources needed for such a service is resolved. This is why we don't have any viable youtube alternative yet, especially one that isn't a corporate pile of junk. Once you get to a certain size if you don't rake in the cash you shut down. So hopefully peer to peer saves the day.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    yup, even youtube isn't profitable. Video remains one of the largest sinks of resources. A 4K movie is stored on a disc of about 66GB, so about 30GB per hour of 4k video. Even with peertube it'd take the best hobbyists to run even a modest server for a few streamers. We're talking people with PB level of storage capacities now with fiber lines to their house to truly host peertube alternatives, and if we're talking cloud we're talking thousands per month.

    It's not impossible, I don't want to get people down, but that's the major hurdle

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Every video maker should host his own peertube instance with only 1 user.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    this is true. having said that - i follow a peertube-based french outfit called blast (can't speak french, just look at the pictures). if i go to a different site (peertube.stream, liberta.vip) and look at a video, the streams are coming off video.blast-info.fr.

    there's no question video is a huge resource suck, and that nobody would want to host a lot of other people's videos. i just wonder, if the model is federated indexes but owner-hosted video, i wonder if there's a use case that can work at scale.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I do like the idea of having individuals host their own channels, but the bar for entry needs to become incredibly simple. Granted kids can spin up minecraft servers now, so at least that easy for online hosting. Self hosting is a bit more arduous for sure, but if people can host their own plex servers then I'd expect most video creators to be able to run peer tube - when it gets that easy.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I subscribe to nebula for this reason, directly support creators and it's very reasonably priced.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    I've had good experiences with Odysee. Not as much content yet, and it's missing DIY videos, but I don't see problems yet.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    How is peertube in terms of hosting costs? I would assume much higher than lemmy or mastodon considering it's all video content.

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