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Far-right Israeli government minister Ben-Gvir believes that Israeli soldiers must shoot Palestinian women and children in Gaza to stop 'another October 7'.


Far-right Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir demanded the army shoot Palestinian women and children in Gaza during a cabinet meeting, according to the Israeli media on Monday.

“We cannot have women and children getting close to the border... anyone who gets near must get a bullet [in the head],” Ben-Gvir said during a debate with Israeli military chief Herzi Halevi on the army’s “open-fire” rules at the cabinet meeting on Sunday.

Ben-Gvir, who heads the extreme right Jewish Power party, told Halevi that Israel’s rules of engagement in Gaza were too lenient and ought to be broadened out to encompass civilians.

“You know how our enemies operate... they will try us,” Ben-Gvir said according to The Jerusalem Post.

“They will send women and children as undercover terrorists. If we continue like this, we will reach another October 7.”

Halevi did not argue with Ben-Gvir over the ethics of shooting Palestinian women and children, but rather claimed that it might lead to more “friendly fire” incidents.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (9 children)

It's easy from the privilege of safety to say that Israel has no choice but to keep Palestinians locked up in their open air prison, because you imagine that they might take revenge when they get out.

This is the exact argument that white people made to not free the enslaved people. The real solution is freedom for everyone, from the river to the sea.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Yes, and the assumptions that make up this artificial“it’s us against them”ultimatum tend to dissolve when placed under an empathetic lens.

The political justification for the genocide of Palestine, much like that of US slavery, requires that people are dehumanized. It’s not genocide because they’re an existential threat, slavery isn’t a grievous violation of human rights because non-whites simply aren’t human in the same capacity, etc. These assumptions don’t hold up long if you perceive the “other” as motivated by a similar humanity to your own — everyone else is just trying to put food on the table and keep their family safe too.

Of course, there are many bad-faith actors to be found. But my point is that, broadly speaking, we all need to chip away at toxic “us vs them” narratives from the bottom up

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Fanon talks about how colonialism dehumanizes both the colonized and the colonizer. The colonized become less-than-human, but the colonizers become greater-than-human. That's what the existential threat is, if Palestinians regain their humanity then Israelis have to become lowly humans again. It's not just an "us vs them" narrative, it's a structure of domination that makes Israelis superhuman.

The de-colonial struggle shows the settler that no, actually, they aren't superhuman. They bleed and die like the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is an excellent point, thank you. I think this is a crucial and overlooked component to fascist movements and their appeal to the disenfranchised, like the amorphous concept of “great”-ness that the MAGA crowd espouses.

I haven’t read Fanon, would you recommend a place to start?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Black Skin, White Masks is where he talks about colonial dehumanization. While he's talking in the context of Africa and France, it applies quite well to Israel and Palestine too.

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