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they think the Co-Prosperity Sphere was Japan’s attempt to stop Trans Satanic cults from spreading across the Pacific, and OOP loves Imperial Japan.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Japan’s attempt to stop Trans Satanic cults from spreading across the Pacific, and

The absolute brainworms necessary to believe Japan of all fucking places... In the 1930s even.

Like, at least the KMT were Catholic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Japan wasn't a Christian nation in the 1930s. It was majority Shintoist and Buddhist with only a tiny Christian minority largely relegated to the lower classes. Why would they care about Satanic Cults? Its nonsense.

The Chinese-based KMT would be the more likely candidate if you were going to make up some bullshit about a glorious Christianist crusade.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If the KMT was Catholic then the Communists would've won before the Japanese invasion even happened lmao.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They were extremely Catholic, which is how they got so much support from foreigners in Western organizations and governments.

Absent that, yeah, the KMT would have been paste very early on. But they were inundated with guns and money for much of the 1930s and 40s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think you're getting them confused with South Vietnam. The only leading figure who was unquestionably Christian was Chiang Kai Shek's wife. On the other hand you have the Muslim Ma Clique, who towards the end was the last KMT holdout.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuomintang_Islamic_insurgency

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781403919755_9

Our greatest hope is to make the Bible and Christian education, as we have known it, the means of conveying to our countrymen what blessings may be in the way of just laws

~ Sun Yat-Sen, the founder of the Koumintang, during a speaking event in San Francisco in 1911

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sun Yat-sen’s Christianity has been a subject of some controversy; it has been argued that Sun was not really a Christian but portrayed himself as such for political reasons.

If he had said that in Chinese to a Chinese audience then he would've been hanged and China would be run by Yuan Shikai III or something right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

China has a Christian population of around 23M even now. Taiwan has another million. And missionaries had been plying their trade, particularly in the coastal cities, for centuries prior. Famously so, as Christian theology sparked the Tiaping Rebellion of the 1850s. You're not going to get hanged for this in China. But then this is in a country where one could viably call oneself a Confucian and a Christian without significant cognitive dissonance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

1.6% of the population

I was regretably one of them. Christianity was rightfully despised as a tool of control for colonial drug cartels. Sun Yat Sen's own brother was disgusted by him being baptized. Being sort of but not really religious has always been common in China. Openly claiming that he wanted to Christianize China would trigger revulsion from the vast majority of the population even in the modern day, let alone the 1900s.

call oneself a Confucian and a Christian

Confucianism is not a religion.