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I've been an IT professional for 20 years now, but I've mainly dealt with Windows. I've worked with Linux servers through out the years, but never had Linux as a daily driver. And I decided it was time to change. I only had 2 requirements. One, I need to be able to use my Nvidia 3080 ti for local LLM and I need to be able to RDP with multiple screens to my work laptop running Windows 10.

My hope was to be able to get this all working and create some articles on how I did it to hopefully inspire/guide others. Unfortunately, I was not successful.

I started out with Ubuntu 22.04 and I could not get the live CD to boot. After some searching, I figured out I had to go in a turn off ACPI in boot loader. After that I was able to install Ubuntu side by side with Windows 11, but the boot loader errored out at the end of the install and Ubuntu would not boot.

Okay, back into Windows to download the boot loader fixer and boot to that. Alright, I'm finally able to get into Ubuntu, but I only have 1 of my 4 monitors working. Install the NVIDIA-SMI and reboot. All my monitors work now, but my network card is now broken.

Follow instructions on my phone to reinstall the linux-modules-extra package. Back into Windows to download that because, you know, no network connections. Reinstall the package, it doesn't work. Go into advanced recovery, try restoring packages, nothing is working. I can either get my monitors to work or my network card. Never both at the same time.

I give up and decide it's time to try out Fedora. The install process is much smoother. I boot up 3 of 4 monitors work. I find a great post on installing Nvidia drivers and CUDA. After doing that and rebooting, I have all 4 monitors and networking, woohoo!

Now, let's test RDP. Install FreeRDP run with /multimon, and the screen for each remote window is shifted 1/3 of the way to the left. Strange. Do a little looking online, find an Issue on GitHub about how it is based on the primary monitor. Long story short, I can't use multiple monitor RDP because I have different resolution monitors and they are stacked 2x2 instead of all in a row. Trust me I tried every combination I could think of.

Someone suggested using the nightly build because they have been working on this issue. Okay, I try that out and it fails to install because of a missing dependency. Apparently, there is a pull request from December to fix this on Fedora installs, but it hasn't been merged. So, I would need to compile that specific branch myself.

At this point, I'm just so sick of every little thing being a huge struggle, I reboot and go back into Windows. I still have Fedora on there, but who would have thought something that sounds as simple as wanting to RDP across 4 monitors would be so damn difficult.

I'm not saying any of this to bag on Linux. It's more of a discussion topic on, yes, I agree that there needs to be more adoption on Linux, but if someone with 20 years of IT experience gets this feed up with it, imagine how your average user would feel.

Of course if anyone has any recommendation on getting my RDP working, I'm all ears on that too.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I swear, every time one of these posts/comments pops up, the chances root issues are caused by Nvidia hardware is insanely high.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So, I'm coming to learn that about Nvidia. I figured with the 3080 being a few years old now things would be alright. I was wrong.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

What's a decent GPU that behaves nicely with Linux?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have two AMD Radeon cards for Linux that I'm pretty happy with that replaced a couple of Nvidia cards. They are an RX6800 and an RX6700XT. They were both ex mining cards that I bought when the miners were dumping their ethereum rigs, so they were pretty cheap.

If I had to buy a new card to fill that gap, I'd probably get a 7800XT, but if you don't game on them you could get a much lower end model like an RX7600.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I'd be interested in one that could do gaming and compute stuff. Thank you for the specific recs, I'll check those out!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Are they actually good? Or are they decent?

Because AMD on Windows has a lot of flaws compared to Nvidia. Nvidia can run anything with tons of cutting-edge features and everything is documented. AMD on the other hand, doesn't come close to that kind of support.

AMD does work of course, just not always how it should.

Is it actually good on Linux out of the box? Or does it still require finicking every now and then?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The brand new devices will require a newer kernel but other than that they work out of the box

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I had issues with my Nvidia gpu and Wayland Desktops.

Especially with the new Steam Big Picture mode both Linux and Windows being laggy.

AMD on the other hand had one issue in Windows where my friend told me to reinstall the drivers because the second Monitor couldnt be detected at random times when rebooting.

On Linux on the other Hand... zero issues. Literally. I am satisfied how good it works compared to trashy Nvidia having constant issues. Even on Windows I had issues with Nvidia because you need to sign in and download the drivers. Sometimes there is an update and you never know, and wonder why your game doesnt work. Well, because you need the newest update suddenly. Not with AMD on Windows. And on Linux. You dont even need to install amything. Mostly preinstalled Mesa drivers but I am not that certain.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In my experience most things AMD fare pretty well. My 6750 XT is working great. My older RX 580 and Radeon HD 6870 were also pretty solid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Most of AMD is good. Slightly older is going to be best

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Might have Luck with Leap or Tumbleweed because nVidia hosts their own openSUSE driver repos. add nVidia repo to SUSE, GUI select the driver and click OK

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps we could suggest OP other things to try before we suggest they should rip out their GPU. I don't know, basic problem-solving approach, like using the Nouveau or generic Vesa driver to rule out the proprietary Nvidia driver, or a different screen-sharing method to rule out RDP. Which is a proprietary Windows protocol so it may not work perfectly from Linux and with an unusual hardware configuration.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don’t completely disagree with you. But it’s also a reality I’ve had to deal with myself as well. My personal take is I’d rather avoid the brand altogether if you care about Linux, but I also realize it’s not always possible if you care about - or need, for various reasons - things like CUDA, NVENC and RTX. In this case, OP specifically wants CUDA, and that won’t work without the proprietary driver.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Life is easier with a mediocre workstation card for video outputs, and the Nvidia card doing just CUDA.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

From what I've read, I must be the luckiest person in the world. I've been on Linux for 10+ years and only ever had Nvidia hardware. I've never had any issues aside from the occasional Vsync annoyance.