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  1. Harry Potter Fandoms will be a part of the Fediverse one way or the other. It’s better to shape this development rather than being overwhelmed by it.
  2. Harry Potter Fandoms are a huge opportunity for the Fediverse. Look at what the collaboration of Lego and Disney brought to Fortnite. People want to spend time in places, in which they feel familiar and welcomed. I'm not saying collaborating with big companies here, what I'm saying is: the Fediverse needs to be filled with life and we have to use that opportunity first, before others do.
  3. Don't throw the opinions of J.K. Rowling and its fandom in one bucket. It’s one of the biggest in the world, there is a broad range of opinions and people.
  4. The Fediverse needs more projects that immediately make sense to people. Projects that you tell a person about, and they say: "Oh, yeah, that makes sense." Mastodon in comparison to Twitter was such a thing: its billionaire proof. Everybody gets why that's a good thing. A better, more open place to build Harry Potter fan sites could be another.
  5. The project (including other places like this that may follow) could also become another attractive place on the Fediverse for the open-source community. Who wouldn’t be excited to help build the world of Harry Potter?

All of this is of course up for discussion. I'm a very stubborn person but I'm also able to listen ;)

Edit: I removed "queer friendly" from the description. Its not a claim that I can fully uphold anyways. Instead, it has a no tolerancy policy against transphobia, which is more clear and probably easier to enforce.

Here is the link: https://diagonlemmy.social

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'm sorry, but as a cis heterosexual man who has trans friends and has turned away from all things Harry Potter and JK Rowling in utter disgust, this strikes me as attempting to ignore the obvious transphobia of the TERF author in the hope of keeping your head in the sand and residing in a place of nostalgia solely because transgendered people aren't the majority.

I get your desire to grow the Fediverse, but if you want to create a community around a fandom, perhaps you should choose a piece of media that embraces inclusion rather than one that is simply popular?

Stop looking into your past fandoms with nostalgic rose tinted glasses, acknowledge that you can't have Hogwartz without the hatred, and find media that is straight up more inclusive.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Damn, you gotts love those shortcuts. You love HP ? You're a transphobe biggot horrible person. Come on, grow up.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Nah. Didn't call you or anyone else a transphobe. Did i? Make your case that you're not simply wanting to enjoy HP while ignoring how hurtful JK's rhetoric has been to the trans community. You're turning a blind eye to the pain a minority community is enduring. That doesn't make you a transphobe, that makes you indifferent to the harm that trans people have and will continue to endure because of JK's transphobic bigotry.

The company you keep isn't inherently transphobic, but it does show you don't care about this particular issue, which puts you in the company of transphobes. Again, the company you keep reflects on your character. And I personally find that crowd distasteful, and I'm on the internet expressing it as such until the conversation ends.

I await another one of your witty retorts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So the trans people that still like Harry Potter don’t mean anything?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Welp, they're not trans anymore aparently

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you limit yourself to media created only by authors that past your particular purity test your going to have a very narrow view of the world. There is a reason the HP fandom is popular and I don't think it's because it's because it's made up of budding transphobes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I don't think it's particularly hard to find authors who aren't actively spreading hate, actually. And I don't think Rowling's level of transphobia is a particularly specific purity test.

Plus, Rowling takes an active role in promoting hate. She's loud about it. She has a big platform because HP is so popular, and I think that makes her especially dangerous.

She certainly seems to put her money where her mouth is too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Holy fuck. I like Harry Potter and want to speak about it, so what? Because JK made a few announcements? Words do damage and I get that it's already hard being trans and she isn't helping. But acting like this is just building more walls, dividing an already fucked humankind for no good reason.

I respect anyone's choice to be trans, but then you'll have to let me discuss HP without judgement as well. And if you won't, then you're the problem. Because I will still respect anyone trans, but I won't respect you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

for no good reason.

Seems like a pretty good to reason.

And choice to be trans? I dunno if it’s a choice anymore than I “choose” to love the same sex.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't mean you can't choose to stay clear of HP yourself. What I'm hinting at is that you can disassociate with a group without the drama. HP fans aren't all bigots, that's obvious right? I like Wagner's music, I'm not a fucking Nazi. It's such a weird hill to die on with everything going on.

And choice to be trans? I dunno if it’s a choice anymore than I “choose” to love the same sex.

It's not the point, and I hope you got that but just couldn't leave without slapping my wrist.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah words matter. But thanks for clarifying it wasn't your point.

Nobody's gonna call you a Nazi for liking Wagner. But I will say you like Hitler's favorite musician and if you start hanging out with other Wagner enthusiasts, you might very well find yourself in the company of Nazis. Sure they aren't all Nazis, and I'm sure that if you were to find out some or most of them were , you'd rightly distance yourself from the group. Right?

My original argument isn't about the quality of the works in question, it's about whether it's okay to ignore the hateful rhetoric of JKR and the harm she causes trans people with said rhetoric, solely in the interest of creating and engaging in community around her work.

It's insensitive to a group already marginalized in societies at large because to form a community around HP inherently excludes them, not because trans people can't see the value in HP or it's literary quality, but because they can't disassociate the work from the author. JKR is a TERF, has helped spearhead a TERF movement amongst her accolades, targeting trans people specifically with hate speech, all within recent memory.

Additionally, Wagner, while a controversial figure as Hitler's favorite musician, was never explicitly anti-semitic. The same cannot be said of JK Rowling and her transphobic rhetoric. So the comparison isn't quite as astute as you might believe it to be.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago

"choice to be trans"

Well there you go, transphobia pretending to disguise itself. Go ahead and try to justify your wording, you've already lost plenty of people's respect. Of course if that "doesn't matter" to you, you probably shouldn't have brought it up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So where’s do trans people that still like Harry Potter fit into your equation?

Should we just ignore what they think?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

Trans people are allowed to make their own choices about how they deal with Rowlings transphobia.