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Chinese migrants are fastest growing group crossing into U.S. from Mexico | 60 Minutes (www.youtube.com)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can read it for yourself and make your own decisions rather than relying on people who hate America to interpret it for you.

Don't worry I won't rely on you to interpret it for me.

The 4,000 number that triggers a border close doesn't close it, it only gives the option to close it.

(A) DISCRETIONARY ACTIVATION.—The Secretary may activate the border emergency authority if, during a period of 7 consecutive calendar days, there is an average of 4,000 or more aliens who are encountered each day.

Then there's the 5000 trigger but naturally there are exceptions.

(C) An unaccompanied alien child. (D) An alien who an immigration officer determines, with the approval of a supervisory immigration officer, should be excepted from the border emergency authority based on the totality of the circumstances … (F) An alien who has a valid visa or other lawful permission to enter the United States, including— … (iv) an alien who presents at a port of entry pursuant to a process approved by the Secretary to allow for safe and orderly entry into the United States.

Even those loopholes were not enough so they made sure they could ignore the mandatory closing.

Whenever the border emergency authority is activated, the Secretary shall have the authority, in the Secretary’s sole and unreviewable discretion, to summarily remove from and prohibit, in whole or in part, entry into the United States of any alien identified in subsection (a)(3) who is subject to such authority in accordance with this subsection.>

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So, just to be clear, the border should be closed even to people with who valid visas or are otherwise lawfully permitted to enter into the U.S. when the border emergency authority is activated?

Like, if an Israeli citizen shows up and wants to get through...they should be rejected if the border emergency authority is activated?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nice try at a straw man, I'm surprised you didn't go the unaccomponied minor route.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can just say no and amend what you mean.

How come none of you know how to argue? Pointing out a strawman just means I've misrepresented your position.

Also, the unaccompanied minor is in the bill. You posted it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could you point to where I said I disagree with all the exceptions, I simply listed them? If you had a desire to have a real discussion you could ask which ones I disagree with.

You might need to read up on what a straw man is, it's not just misrepresenting a position.

You seem to have missed my point about your attempted straw man. I was saying I'm surprised you didn't us the what about the kids as your straw man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

If you had a desire to have a real discussion you could ask which ones I disagree with.

Yeah, okay, I owe you a genuine apology. You actually read it and found bits that you disagreed with and even quoted them. And, in response, I fucked by basically asserting that you believe things you don't.

I apologize for that.

I do want a real discussion. But, let's try again some other time.