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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I expect that's precisely the narrative we'll get as long as there's anything left of Ukraine in the end. The secondary narrative is going to be that Ukraine would've totally won if not for those darn republicans blocking additional 60b spending.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Liberals becoming 2nd term Nixon republicans

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

Apt analogy, and the whole dynamic with Ukraine has a lot of parallels with Vietnam actually.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine really might have had a much better chance if it could have borrowed an extra $60bn to pay for the same 84 shells, all the stores marked "illegal weapons" 'left over' from before the Geneva convention, and the 3 tanks left in the warehouse. Nobody wants to be at war paying pre-war prices. What will the neighbours think? Don't answer. We already know—it's highly unfashionable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Right, like the elephant in the room is that the west lacks industrial capacity to produce weapons and ammunition at the rate they're consumed. Dumping more money into this doesn't solve that problem. Also, how is another 60b going to accomplish what hundreds of billions they pumped into Ukraine over the past two years couldn't accomplish.