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Campaign groups have written to officials in nine states urging the former president be barred from running for office for allegedly inciting an insurrection.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Am I the only one who thinks another Trump run is the best possible outcome for Democrats? That or him running third party.

I acknowledge and recognize the 2016 hubris that got us here, but it's not 2016 anymore, and I don't think you will have well-meaning folks thinking how bad can he be. At this point he's going to get votes from the trump faithful and a smaller chunk of R who are still willing to hand him power, I'd imagine.

I don't claim any particular expertise, but while I do want him convicted and don't want him as president, I think I'm OK with him running for the office one more time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I mostly agree but I think regardless we’re in very dangerous territory this election

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Totally fair point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think a Trump 3rd party run is the only surefire Democratic victory. I believe that a Trump GOP run will mirror 2016 in which the popular vote is a razor thin (yes, I'm calling a 3-4 Million lead razor thin) victory overshadowed by the electoral college.

I seriously worry about the Cornell West Green Party campaign splitting the Democratic vote for Biden. Biden isn't my first pick, but I would have preferred to see West try to primary Biden and then once West gets any traction, platform planks can be transplanted into the Dem platform. That is not even a possibility for this 3rd party approach.

Also, Jill Stein was a Russian shill to disrupt Sec. Clinton so I can't believe Cornell West has thrown his lot in with the Green Party.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On the other hand, if the GOP went with desantis or someone else, a number of the die hards might not vote Republican at all. It's hard to say how it'll all shake out.

EDIT: Oh, I see you mentioned him running third party. Yeah, that might be the best case scenario for Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I actually think DeSantis would be almost as good for the Dems as Trump would be - but I get the feeling that even R has figured out he's a bad play. I could be wrong of course...