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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You know what I want to look at devices prices and their typical lifespan and see what their monthly cost is once adjusted for inflation. I’m curious how device prices have evolved…

Edit: I asked ChatGPT (so not verified info) and yes it gave me a md compatible table lol

Device Release Price Lifespan Monthly Cost of Ownership Release Date
Nokia 3310 (Adjusted) $67.15 8 years Approximately $0.70 2000
5th Gen iPod (iPod Video) $299 6 years Approximately $4.15 2005
iPod Touch (7th Gen) $199 6 years Approximately $2.76 2019
MacBook Air (M1 chip) $999 5 years Approximately $16.65 2020
Google Pixel 5 (Base) $699 4 years Approximately $14.56 2020
iPhone 13 (Base Model) $699 4 years Approximately $14.56 2021
Samsung Galaxy S21 (Base) $799 4 years Approximately $16.65 2021
iPhone 13 Pro (Base Model) $999 4 years Approximately $20.81 2021
Apple Vision Pro $3,499 4 years Approximately $72.90 2024

Edit2 added iPod and iPhone 13 Pro and more coming as I think of it. Feel free to suggest things in the comments.

Edit3 added android phones.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

While this is true, I feel like this tank misses a few things.

  • not everyone replaces on this schedule. I still know people that go 2hrs or less on a phone. At the same point, I bought new, used, then passed down to my daughter,my iPhone 6 and she finally replaced it in 2022. It was still getting security updates. That’s 8 yrs. I’m not in a hurry to replace my iPhone 11, it’s still perfectly fine. My late 2013 MBP, still works well. (I replaced the battery once in 2020) I finally upgraded to an M2, but continue to use the 2013 for things at times.

People replace things too often imho. But to go with this theme, I used to do so as well… swapped my iPhone 3GS for a 4s and then the 6. I’d build a new desktop every 18-24 months near the late 90’s and 2000’s. Things were improving so fast in those times, it was worth it… but then things have stagnated. I don’t see a good reason to get a new iPhone, and while I love the M2, it’ll easily tide me over for 10 yrs. My wife still uses her Lenovo laptop from 2011. Cost is only part of the equation. Sure I don’t want to drop the coin, but also there’s really no big changes worth it to me.

I do miss my Nokia 3110 though. Stability and battery life were awesome. Those were simpler days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think you want to use hourly cost, or maybe some other measure of the utility of something. I can own a rock, and it may be a magnificent rock that will last centuries, but it isn't going to give me much benefit.

Same with an old cell phone. I may be able to use it for 8 years, but I'm not going to use it for navigation, taking pictures, video chatting with family/friends, replacing my laptop when I'm out, etc.

Your table is a good start, but it's missing some really important information

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Please what info is it missing? I added the iPods for that reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Please what info is it missing

The entire android ecosystem

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Very good pint.

Device Release Price Lifespan Monthly Cost of Ownership Release Date
Nokia 3310 (Adjusted) $67.15 8 years Approximately $0.70 2000
5th Gen iPod (iPod Video) $299 6 years Approximately $4.15 2005
iPod Touch (7th Gen) $199 6 years Approximately $2.76 2019
MacBook Air (M1 chip) $999 5 years Approximately $16.65 2020
Google Pixel 5 (Base) $699 4 years Approximately $14.56 2020
iPhone 13 (Base Model) $699 4 years Approximately $14.56 2021
Samsung Galaxy S21 (Base) $799 4 years Approximately $16.65 2021
iPhone 13 Pro (Base Model) $999 4 years Approximately $20.81 2021
Apple Vision Pro $3,499 4 years Approximately $72.90 2024
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Maybe add a popular budget android phone too as opposed to flag ships.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Basically, I don't think think monthly cost of ownership is a good metric for value.

I probably used an old cell phone maybe 3 hours a week. I use my smartphone at least 3 hours a day communicating with people, reading news, studying, games for kids, work, etc. I don't think monthly cost of ownership reflects the value that those devices bring me. Your table needs a different column that measures the value more appropriately. Perhaps ownership cost per hour of usage?

You have another issue in that smartphones replace cameras, radios/Walkmen, maps, and even laptops In many cases. An iphone doesn't just replace an old Nokia, it replaces all those other items as well.

I don't think you need more rows, you need different columns.