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YSK: How to protect yourself against Etsy’s plan to prevent class action lawsuits
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this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2023
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Crazy that a corporate TOS can take away your legal rights like that.
Sounds like Etsy is as well in the sprial of Enshittification: They lured in the customers with great deals on personal/handworked products, they lured in more seller by offering them the customer base while broaden the products they can offer (leaving behind the initial userbase going straight to a general marketplace). Now that they are both in, they changed the rules and make it just shitty enough that people do not quit, but the revenue is maximized. Now shutting down future risk by Class Action to protect the profits. Here is a great 29 Minute Podcast with Cory Doctorow explaining this shift that platforms are currently making.>>>
How on earth are these legally enforceable?
Not sure about the specifics but it might not be enforceable. Just because a company says something in their TOS doesn't mean it's true.
I'm currently involved in a lawsuit against amazon that is being forced through arbitration. It's been 3 years since the process started for me with no end in site because there are 50,000 others in queue to arbitrate the same claims. This is why they do it and it is unfortunately enforceable.
Your case doesn't speak for every case.
Lobbying and rule-of-money (in the US, the side who has the most resources has leverage over the legal discourse by having more, better and longer working lawyers which somehow will often be able to win a case)
Re: enshittification - I totally agree that they’ve ruined what Etsy was actually good for and now they’re just milking it dry. It’s all generic, mass produced crap now and the search result ads within their site are incredibly obtrusive.