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I thought about it but I couldn't think of a proper answer.

I guess it would make the most sense to let the colonized decide what to do with the colonizers, since they are the victims.

And what would happen with the people that were brought in as slaves by the colonizers?

I hope someone smarter than me can explain 🙏🥺

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

im not just a by stander because while im not american i live in this shithole and idk if i get to be a citizen in your particular flavor of dystopia as it stands im fucked but im certainly not gonna support a revolution to then also be fucked at the end of it, if its people like u or capitalists, i guess im a splitter but i would much rather just a revolution led by leftists. and two because and maybe its just me but if something is morally wrong then idk im against it.

idk where this magical coalition is at, i certainly i havent seen it around and if u want indigenous supremacy (which if it is according to you their land and therefore they should rule it u clearly do) then i dont see why such a coalition would ever form.

and what makes it their land, who lives where thru out the world has been ever changing why is the rightful snapshot of territory that most be preserved for eternity 1 second before the whites arrived why not a little earlier why not a little later u makes these statements as if they are simply fact but they arent, why should land belong to whoever happen to be living at any one place 400 years ago

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You keep mentioning morals as if that has shit to do with our oppression. Scientific Socialism finds solutions without bending to settler morality.

Settlers are in fact, a bourgeoisie toward the colonized peoples.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

As I already said, natives are not gone, they are just silenced and deprived of their rights. What is your alternative? A settler socialism where we continue to rule only we are internally more equal? In that case you may as well be an imperialist socdem. The “magic coalition” is possible. If you read the BAR articles about “black rage” you will understand the revolutionary potential of Black USians. Fanon shows us the most oppressed are the most willing to fight. The most oppressed here are Black people, colonized peoples, and immigrants. There will be settler allies, people know capitalism and settler colonialism is messed up, especially poor white people which are greater in number than most assume. I myself am a settler ally, willing to fight for decolonization.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

idk where this magical coalition is at

Cousin look at the fish wars, noDAPL, prison abolition movement. What significant gains have the settler politics gotten us? If they were capable of liberating us then we wouldn't need to be working for it ourselves. Settler mass politics is incapable of freeing us. Let some Florida settler nationalist die in the Rockies trying to prevent the indigenous nations from reasserting their water rights. I doubt many settlers will want to do that for something they've never come into contact with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"I will give up my external colonies but I will not give up my internal ones!"

The opposite of white supremacy isn't indigenous supremacy, it's the sovereignty of the colonized masses.