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Maybe the fact that conservative governments erode the rights of women?
I think that's probably the biggest driver the last 10 years.
A FUCKTONNE of women I know became a hell of a lot less conservative when Roe Vs Wade was overturned.
Now if only they would vote like it...
For further context, the Dobbs decision was June 2022...
I feel this is more indicative of the fact that conservatives simply vote more per capita. Public sentiment doesn't always translate to votes when only 20% of the population participates.
Sure, but either way, people are not voting against conservatives - whether that's because they sit out or are continuing to vote conservative seems rather trivia.
... did you not see the last presidential election?
....the one that took place before 2022?
Besides the most recent turnout demonstrating that the women who did vote did not turn more democratic, even Bidens victory in 2020 had nearly the same margins.
Again, it might feel like more women are turning away from the conservative camp, but they certainly aren't voting like it.
I mean I think the fact the “red wave” fizzled completely at midterms is an indication that women are voting more liberal and in greater numbers? Nothing politicizes like an entire gender being told their rights are being removed because “think of the children”.
Do they really? I know about stuff in the US, but what about the other countries. At least for Germany I can say that in the last 10 years I can't really recall anything where the government tried to worsen women's rights.
Herdprämie.
The constitutional court axed the whole thing because it's outside of the jurisdiction of the federation, Bavaria, and only Bavaria then went ahead and made it state law. They also consistently score worst when it comes to access to abortions.
That's the CSU though, the CDU had lots of high-ranking women at that time which explains why they weren't pushing things into that direction. And the whole republic ridiculed vdL for trying to get rid of Vatertag, rightly so.
Yeah, I remember that, but I wouldn't call that worsening women's rights, it was something completely optional and if at all only highlighted existing sexism. It was more or less a susidy for families that didn't sent their kids to kindergarten, the law didn't state which parent had to take care of the children or anything like that. There was criticism that children wouldn't grow up around other children and that it would hold women back in their careers because it would most likely be the mother who stays at home, but that's not the fault of the law. And similar programs exist in Norway, Sweden and Denmark, and generally people consider those countries as progressive.
Regarding abortions one law making it hard to access was the ridiculous § 219a StGB and that was abolished in 2022. The other problem is that doctors can't be forced to perform abortions. The problem in general here is religious groups.
Compared to America, most conservative German politicians are damn near moderates.
I know for a fact that they would be called 'damn libruhls' by nearly every republicunt they shared their policy ideals with.
It's so ridiculous, last year some politicians from the CSU visited De Santis. They regularly copy talking points from the US, which make absolutely no sense. They even tried the "drag queens are groomers" thing, but it didn't catch on. Next they'll probably try to ban books or some other bullshit like that.
^ This is what happens when they try that shit in a country without a 4 decades deliberately crippled public education system.
Kind of jealous ngl.