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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The graphs show that though? Most men go down to around the "0" line.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Am I reading it wrong? Down is more conservative, no?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well yes, moderate is more conservative than liberal. The US line for men also seems to skirt around the center line, plus there's a reason MAGA people stand a chance so it brings down the average.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I guess what I’m saying is that it would be opposite from my experience. The line would historically be below 0 for men and overtime going up toward 0.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Perhaps more men seem to be getting sucked into manosphere / alt right circles since gamergate. But the US isn't homogeneous either.

At the same time perhaps in some circles men are coming to a better understanding of patriarchy and feminism and moving more liberal. So there is a growing divide but unfortunately in raw numbers there is a slight trend toward conservatism.

Still, I think the entire graph and the data, semantics, and methods behind it deserve scrutiny. Like, exactly what views are being considered? Are there more women becoming socialist? Or socially progressive? Or what?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Have you not noticed the rise in groups like Proud Boys, Patriot Front, and the Three Percenters? Patriot Front has people on overpasses waving signs in my area and they are in the news several times per year for marching in different cities. Just the other day they were recorded in New York City, unable to figure out how to swipe metro cards to get into the subway, so dozens of them charged on through without paying, so it isn’t like they are staying holed up in rural militia compounds out of sight. Far right extremism is both active and on the rise locally and globally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’ve always chalked that up to the vocal minority. I know literally no one that admits to being apart of that and just by talking to them you can pretty quickly sus out what they tend to believe politically. People love to tell you their political opinion for the most part.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Suburbs tend to be more progressive than exburbs which are more progressive than a city in Boomfuck, Kansas. I think that controlling for your personal environment might lead to a more objective perspective of the world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias?lang=en

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The line is where 'central' is

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Right but I’m saying that in the past men were below the line and are moving up.