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[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

What he is saying is the most qualified person should be hired. Race, gender shouldn’t be considered for pilots.

I agree with him. I don’t care if my pilot is a gay drag queen as long hes the best pilot they could hire.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's what he and other anti-DEI decriers claim they want.

If that's the case, then 1) How would you know any given person is the best of anything and 2) Why is a particular policy about intentionally helping women and people of color targeted as the culprit?

Schneider has no reason to believe that United is not hiring the best pilot. And there's even less reason to believe that diversity is the reason for any problems United might have. And yet, he evidently believes United is not hiring the best pilot because of their diversity policy. The diversity policy is the evidence that United is slacking on hiring well-qualified personnel for Schneider.

So, no, he's definitely not claiming he wants the most qualified person hired. It's more like he's saying he doesn't women and people of color piloting United's airplanes and has instead moved to another company with fewer women and people of color.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Schneider has no reason to believe that United is not hiring the best pilot

He gave an example. Pilot almost crashed the plane by a failure of piloting 101.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right, but what's the relationship between almost crashing a plane, United's diversity hiring policy, and the race of the pilot?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well United safety ratings have dropped since launching dei. It’s possibly they are not related but I think they should focus on safety as they are dropping.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

United safety ratings have dropped since launching dei.

Have they? How do you know? I have more questions, but if you just link me to some source or something, I'll figure those out for myself...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

...why do you do this?

Your link says:

“The U.S. carriers rankings are dragged down by the fleet age of their aircraft, however all have major replacement programs in place but it will take time for that to reflect in the rankings,” says Thomas.

That is, the people responsible for ranking airline safety, and in contrast to Rob Schneider and everyone who agrees with him, identify aging aircraft as the reason United's safety rating fell from 14 to 25.

Your link also said:

“This year we went for a top 25 because the margins were so small between these airlines,” Geoffrey Thomas, the editor-in-chief of AirlineRatings.com, told me in an interview.

So, the distance between United Airlines at 25 and American Airlines at 22 isn't that big.

But instead of taking Geoffrey Thomas's word for it, Schneider and anti-DEI company are like, "Aging aircraft? Maybe..but more likely it's women and people of color!" This is more evidence that they are racist and misogynistic.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mmhmm, that just does what Schneider does.

While Bailey doesn’t believe diversity makes traveling safer, the two have frequently been tied together.

But this is such poor reasoning as to demand a cliché: correlation does not imply causation. And that it has been tied together by Emperor God King Musk and coincidentally only those with anti-left wing sentiments is hardly evidence of anything at all except their own biases against women and people of color.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Did you read below as to why there isn’t diversity in pilots? It sounds like that is where United could make a difference but they don’t. I wa shocked. I assumed most pilots came from the military. Most come from self training. That means low people struggle to become pilots. Many black people come from low income families. As such United should setup training in low income schools to provide the opportunity to people. That would be effective in hitting their goal but also making sure the pilots are qualified.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but how United could make a difference isn't the issue. I mean, I agree....but...

It's that movement against diversity employs racism to make its case.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago

You can’t call a Filipino racist. Only whites can be racist according to the left.