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[–] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Buying HP products is bad investment.

I only had the chance to two of their inkjet printers and one of their office laser printers, plus an elitebook laptop. In short, all of them suck.

Much better (to me, the best) alternatives, that I can safely say are good investments: Canon for inkjet printers, ThinkPad T and P series for laptops. Those are quality products. Unfortunately I don't have any experience with other office laser printers, so I cannot recommend one.

Edit: specified which series of ThankPads are still good.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Inkjet printers as a whole are a bad investment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well, I guess it depends on the use case. For me, mine was a damn good investment for sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well if you print lots of photos then maybe but that's about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If you print lots of photos in the USA, printing to the nearest drugstore (Walgreens, rite aid) is certainly cheaper.

If you print a lot of documents in the USA, printing at the library is often free, sometimes a small fee.

Not sure on other countries, but here in the USA, I’ve found a printer completely unnecessary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I kinda agree about the photos, but when printing documents, it's almost always something I need immediately. Going to the library is quite inconvenient.

I bought a used brother laser printer for 15€ and got two 1000 page toner Cartridges for it for 20€. That's quite a lot of printing for 35€ total and that will be enough for years with my needs. Definitely worth the convenience imo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I agree. I have a brother laser printer. However, I’m currently traveling and have it packed away in a trailer. I’ve found the library more convenient than unpacking it. For now. Haha

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Can’t you use the drug store for photos and the library for documents?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

For those who don't want a Canon, a Brother is also great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

ThinkPad is now Lenovo just FYI. They were acquired some years ago and now Lenovo makes and sells the ThinkPad line of hardware

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They were acquired some years ago

Almost 20.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah, Lenovo has owned ThinkPad for ≈ 6 more years than IBM ever did.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know. Still, that's the best hardware out there for laptops. I have to add though, only the T and P series are worth buying, the rest are trash.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not anymore. Even those are garbage in the last 5ish years.

Shit build quality and barely repairable

Stay away from modern thinkpads

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Check again.

At least the T580 I worked on was the best quality laptop I've laid my hands on. My current M1 MacBook Pro is close, to some extent. It's a great machine too, and obviously better in performance as it's newer, but in laptop keyboards, ThinkPad's is still no.1, not to talk about the track point that, to this day, no other manufacturer could properly reproduce. I worked with a Dell Latitude (a couple of years ago they were great), but the track point is shit on it.

Regarding maintenance, Lenovo provides detailed disassembly and repair guides, plus you can get replacement parts anytime.

Of course there are shit decisions on the ThinkPad line as well, but I still only can recommend them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

nope. had a T580 which reproducably crashed when you picked it up by the right side. Likely from mainboard flex. And checking online, it's not a unique case.

And two months after the waranty, the ssd control chip or something broke which basically shredded any data on the ssd. Repair would have been almost as expensive as getting a new one.

Now I've switched to framework for work and personal use and don't regret it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Hmm that's unfortunate. Wherever I worked so far, ThinkPads didn't break, even after the warranty expired.

Well, I wish you better luck with your Framework laptop(s) then.