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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

sighh, that sucks

does this go for pretty much all programs, like say an email client too? or is there a limit to this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Does it suck? KDE also has screenshotting implemented. It makes sense that your window manager should manage your windows, which includes being in charge of what can see what. Letting any app screenshot your entire monitor is not secure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Only those that must interact with non-standard Wayland protocols, such as screen capture tools (like OBS), clipboard managers, WM utilities like xdotool... Other programs such as email clients or text editors are unaffected.

However, this is a non-issue as far as most users are concerned. There are only a handful of implementations (basically, GNOME, KDE, and wlroots which is used by most Wayland WMs) and most modern programs which require specific support to work are all compatible.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

still frustrating as all hell, these programs just worked on x11

also Synergy/Barrier/etc dont work yet and would need "non standard" protocols. Pretty critical for me

I am an enduser and I just expect things to work, but one of the most critical things of my setup wont

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You do realize you're allowed to still use X11, right?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I will be forced to, but x11 is no longer being developed, so its not very secure to do so

additionally, Wayland is going to be default on kde, and Im not sure if that means that it'll be default for me too if I update

not to mention that with it default on KDE, I'll be running into more and more bugs that just, will not be fixed, because "use Wayland" will be the new response to bug reports (GNOME actively does this with a critical GTK4/libadwaita bug)

the point is, Wayland is being rushed and was never ready for default

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

x11 is no longer being developed

Says who?

additionally, Wayland is going to be default on kde, and Im not sure if that means that it'll be default for me too if I update

So when it's the default, you just pick X11 from the drop-down, like I do for Wayland today.

not to mention that with it default on KDE, I'll be running into more and more bugs that just, will not be fixed, because "use Wayland" will be the new response

Speculation. Gnome devs are notoriously stubborn, I don't see that being true for KDE.

the point is, Wayland is being rushed and was never ready for default

15 years is not a rush, and for most people it's ready. Making it the default will serve as a push to get developers to make their applications support it.