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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even if ALL human sourced carbon emissions ended today, the global warming feedback loops already in motion will end most life. Fossil records show that it has happened before.

The thing about unsustainable systems is that they are by definition unsustainable. Humanity has fucked around and now we are finding out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

fossil record show rich life at higher temps . alligators in wyoming and palm trees in canada

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

rich life at higher temps

Until it goes even higher. The release of sub-permafrost and continental slope methane deposits will push it way past the balmy arctic stage before the feedback ends and equilibrium is regained.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

IIRC, there was a time period when tropical forests were found as far north as North Dakota in the Americas, and there was deciduous forest within the Arctic Circle. That gives some idea of what the biota would be like in a warmed world, about 1 million years from now that is. A big bottleneck awaits us though and I'm thinking that also includes enough scarcity to mean famine will be thing on the far end of declining net energy, maybe as soon as later this century (though earlier for low income nations).