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Welcome to 2024, the Year We Stop Trump’s Rolling Insurrection (www.thenation.com)
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[–] 152 points 2 years ago (22 children)

It absolutely blows my mind that a twice impeached insurrectionist single term president is not only running again but allowed to.

What the fuck is wrong with the USA?

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

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    The thing is, the 14th Amendment, Section 3 isn’t vague on this point - he IS disqualified:

    No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

    Look at the wording - it’s clearly intended to be an automatic disqualification. The only way you could possibly arrive at the conclusion that the Office of the President is exempt from this section is by jumping through frankly absurd and facile semantic hoops.

    But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    Pointedly, the only way Congress should be involved (per the relevant section) is in rescinding the disqualification.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The Supreme Court is prepared to jump through those hoops. They’ve practiced long and hard for this opportunity.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

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    Well, they’re only appointed for life, and they did somewhat recently vastly broaden the scope of the 2nd Amendment, and political violence is on the rise, so I wouldn’t be shocked if one or more people decided enough is enough and conducted a “citizen’s kinetic impeachment”, as it were.

    Regardless of how things ultimately turn out, things are definitely 10/10 fucky, and I absolutely hate it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Right? I mean if justice can be aborted/ sidetracked by a simple appeal, how effective is it? Surely he was found to be liable by a judge, the ruling should stand during the appeal, not be put on hold.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I honestly do not think he will be allowed to take office. I just think things are moving at. Slow pace to make sure things are done correctly.

    Probably in some hopes that he will just stop running on his own or something.

    But I doubt that he will ever make his way back into office.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    What the fuck is wrong with the USA?

    • The Electoral College (and land based instead of population based representation)
    • The Citizens United decision (unlimited money to campaign)
    • First Past the Post voting (mathematically determined 2 party extremism)

    Not necessarily in that order. Fixing any one would put the country many degrees to the left though.

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