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We are reading Volumes 1, 2, and 3 in one year. This will repeat yearly until communism is achieved. (Volume IV, often published under the title Theories of Surplus Value, will not be included, but comrades are welcome to set up other bookclubs.) This works out to about 6½ pages a day for a year, 46 pages a week.

I'll post the readings at the start of each week and @mention anybody interested.

Week 1, Jan 1-7, we are reading Volume 1, Chapter 1 'The Commodity'

Discuss the week's reading in the comments.

Use any translation/edition you like. Marxists.org has the Moore and Aveling translation in various file formats including epub and PDF: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

Ben Fowkes translation, PDF: http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=9C4A100BD61BB2DB9BE26773E4DBC5D

AernaLingus says: I noticed that the linked copy of the Fowkes translation doesn't have bookmarks, so I took the liberty of adding them myself. You can either download my version with the bookmarks added, or if you're a bit paranoid (can't blame ya) and don't mind some light command line work you can use the same simple script that I did with my formatted plaintext bookmarks to take the PDF from libgen and add the bookmarks yourself.


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks I think I need to sit tight. In liberal economics, I think the value of a commodity is simply "What the market will pay," which is easy but unsustainable way to run a market place because of differences in information and the baked in incentive to hoard capital to produce commodities at lower prices / monopolize to charge higher prices than the market. I am looking to find a solution to the latent hoarding issue but I don't know if Marx ever solved it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the baked in incentive to hoard capital to produce commodities at lower prices / monopolize to charge higher prices

That is something Marx will talk about a lot, in detail, later in the book, especially in "Part VII: The Accumulation of Capital." He actually gives a down-to-earth, simple example of one business owner who has X amount of profits, spends Y amount on himself, to buy a house, diamonds for his wife, toys for his kids, dinners at fancy restaurants, etc., and then invests X - Y = Z back into the company. Modern corporations are much more complicated than this, because they have thousands of investors, or even millions somtimes, if we consider Vanguard-esque retirement funds. But yeah, Marx basically sees most industries as naturally tending towards monopolization. That is one of the main differences between Marxist and liberal/libertarian economics. You can't compete your way out of this problem.

Furthermore, many Marxists in the past 150 years have predicted that this tendency to ever-more monopolization and increasing "economies of scale" for large corporations will lead to a race to the bottom, with rates of profit continuously falling across the board. Some Marxists even believe falling rates of profit will be the main thing triggering the next big worldwide war/revolution, although that is a hotly debated topic.