▲ 666 ▼ Judge rules that Twitter violated contract when it withheld millions of dollars in bonuses (www.courthousenews.com) submitted 2 years ago by Masimatutu@mander.xyz to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 37 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] kerrypacker@lemmy.world -36 points 2 years ago (9 children) I don't feel anything for those people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (8 children) For the employees left behind and forced to sleep onsite, unable to quit because of their work visas? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children) While I do feel for those people, the only reason they're here to begin with is to avoid paying US workers market rate... Edit: to clarify I meant the corporation is at fault for exploiting them by bringing them here to start with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] m13@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whose fault is that? The workers or the boss exploiting their labour? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The boss/corporation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't fault some poor person from another country for coming to the US to try to make a better living than they could where they came from. If I were in their position, I might very well do the same. I can fault big corporations for not only screwing over US workers by using foreign labor to drive wages down, but for also screwing over foreign laborers by paying them substandard wages and using work visas as a way to hold them over a barrel. Greedy fucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I agree, sorry if my post wasn't clear (rereading it is ambiguous). The corporation is to blame not them permalink fedilink source parent [–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sorry, but that it is absolute nonsense at best, and dangerous anti-immigrant rhetoric at best. Your edit makes nothing better, and if anything makes your comment more stupid. People move countries all the same, and most sane businesses believe that diversity in the workforce breeds innovation and more productivity. Many people at Twitter likely joined from transfers from offices all around the world, likely to spend time in the US or to move to a team that better suited their skills. They're now trapped not because they're "wage slaves", but because their visa likely doesn't allow them to move jobs. If the US were to relax their L1 visa during the layoffs last year and allow people to transfer to a new employer, Twitter would probably be dead today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) This has nothing to do with immigration or a diverse work force. Nice strawman. These are temporary limited visas that the sole purpose is to allow these tech. companies to bring cheap labor that they have leverage on. I'm all for immigration reform and improvement. But again that has nothing to do with these visas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I literally work in the tech industry, at a large tech company, WITH people on work visas. They are all paid on the same pay bands as everyone else, with many earning more due to joining at a time when more RSU's were issued. You're talking utter nonsense. Outside of extreme cases like WITCH companies, this isn't even remotely true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (8 children) For the employees left behind and forced to sleep onsite, unable to quit because of their work visas? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children) While I do feel for those people, the only reason they're here to begin with is to avoid paying US workers market rate... Edit: to clarify I meant the corporation is at fault for exploiting them by bringing them here to start with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] m13@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whose fault is that? The workers or the boss exploiting their labour? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The boss/corporation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't fault some poor person from another country for coming to the US to try to make a better living than they could where they came from. If I were in their position, I might very well do the same. I can fault big corporations for not only screwing over US workers by using foreign labor to drive wages down, but for also screwing over foreign laborers by paying them substandard wages and using work visas as a way to hold them over a barrel. Greedy fucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I agree, sorry if my post wasn't clear (rereading it is ambiguous). The corporation is to blame not them permalink fedilink source parent [–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sorry, but that it is absolute nonsense at best, and dangerous anti-immigrant rhetoric at best. Your edit makes nothing better, and if anything makes your comment more stupid. People move countries all the same, and most sane businesses believe that diversity in the workforce breeds innovation and more productivity. Many people at Twitter likely joined from transfers from offices all around the world, likely to spend time in the US or to move to a team that better suited their skills. They're now trapped not because they're "wage slaves", but because their visa likely doesn't allow them to move jobs. If the US were to relax their L1 visa during the layoffs last year and allow people to transfer to a new employer, Twitter would probably be dead today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) This has nothing to do with immigration or a diverse work force. Nice strawman. These are temporary limited visas that the sole purpose is to allow these tech. companies to bring cheap labor that they have leverage on. I'm all for immigration reform and improvement. But again that has nothing to do with these visas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I literally work in the tech industry, at a large tech company, WITH people on work visas. They are all paid on the same pay bands as everyone else, with many earning more due to joining at a time when more RSU's were issued. You're talking utter nonsense. Outside of extreme cases like WITCH companies, this isn't even remotely true. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children) While I do feel for those people, the only reason they're here to begin with is to avoid paying US workers market rate... Edit: to clarify I meant the corporation is at fault for exploiting them by bringing them here to start with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] m13@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whose fault is that? The workers or the boss exploiting their labour? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The boss/corporation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't fault some poor person from another country for coming to the US to try to make a better living than they could where they came from. If I were in their position, I might very well do the same. I can fault big corporations for not only screwing over US workers by using foreign labor to drive wages down, but for also screwing over foreign laborers by paying them substandard wages and using work visas as a way to hold them over a barrel. Greedy fucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I agree, sorry if my post wasn't clear (rereading it is ambiguous). The corporation is to blame not them permalink fedilink source parent [–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sorry, but that it is absolute nonsense at best, and dangerous anti-immigrant rhetoric at best. Your edit makes nothing better, and if anything makes your comment more stupid. People move countries all the same, and most sane businesses believe that diversity in the workforce breeds innovation and more productivity. Many people at Twitter likely joined from transfers from offices all around the world, likely to spend time in the US or to move to a team that better suited their skills. They're now trapped not because they're "wage slaves", but because their visa likely doesn't allow them to move jobs. If the US were to relax their L1 visa during the layoffs last year and allow people to transfer to a new employer, Twitter would probably be dead today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) This has nothing to do with immigration or a diverse work force. Nice strawman. These are temporary limited visas that the sole purpose is to allow these tech. companies to bring cheap labor that they have leverage on. I'm all for immigration reform and improvement. But again that has nothing to do with these visas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I literally work in the tech industry, at a large tech company, WITH people on work visas. They are all paid on the same pay bands as everyone else, with many earning more due to joining at a time when more RSU's were issued. You're talking utter nonsense. Outside of extreme cases like WITCH companies, this isn't even remotely true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] m13@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Whose fault is that? The workers or the boss exploiting their labour? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The boss/corporation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago The boss/corporation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't fault some poor person from another country for coming to the US to try to make a better living than they could where they came from. If I were in their position, I might very well do the same. I can fault big corporations for not only screwing over US workers by using foreign labor to drive wages down, but for also screwing over foreign laborers by paying them substandard wages and using work visas as a way to hold them over a barrel. Greedy fucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I agree, sorry if my post wasn't clear (rereading it is ambiguous). The corporation is to blame not them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I agree, sorry if my post wasn't clear (rereading it is ambiguous). The corporation is to blame not them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sorry, but that it is absolute nonsense at best, and dangerous anti-immigrant rhetoric at best. Your edit makes nothing better, and if anything makes your comment more stupid. People move countries all the same, and most sane businesses believe that diversity in the workforce breeds innovation and more productivity. Many people at Twitter likely joined from transfers from offices all around the world, likely to spend time in the US or to move to a team that better suited their skills. They're now trapped not because they're "wage slaves", but because their visa likely doesn't allow them to move jobs. If the US were to relax their L1 visa during the layoffs last year and allow people to transfer to a new employer, Twitter would probably be dead today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) This has nothing to do with immigration or a diverse work force. Nice strawman. These are temporary limited visas that the sole purpose is to allow these tech. companies to bring cheap labor that they have leverage on. I'm all for immigration reform and improvement. But again that has nothing to do with these visas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I literally work in the tech industry, at a large tech company, WITH people on work visas. They are all paid on the same pay bands as everyone else, with many earning more due to joining at a time when more RSU's were issued. You're talking utter nonsense. Outside of extreme cases like WITCH companies, this isn't even remotely true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) This has nothing to do with immigration or a diverse work force. Nice strawman. These are temporary limited visas that the sole purpose is to allow these tech. companies to bring cheap labor that they have leverage on. I'm all for immigration reform and improvement. But again that has nothing to do with these visas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I literally work in the tech industry, at a large tech company, WITH people on work visas. They are all paid on the same pay bands as everyone else, with many earning more due to joining at a time when more RSU's were issued. You're talking utter nonsense. Outside of extreme cases like WITCH companies, this isn't even remotely true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I literally work in the tech industry, at a large tech company, WITH people on work visas. They are all paid on the same pay bands as everyone else, with many earning more due to joining at a time when more RSU's were issued. You're talking utter nonsense. Outside of extreme cases like WITCH companies, this isn't even remotely true. permalink fedilink source parent