▲ 64 ▼ Proton's doing a fundraiser (hexbear.net) submitted 2 years ago by oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net 19 comments fedilink hide all child comments I was thinking "Oh, maybe I'll donate. They're donating to MSF and Tor? That's cool." And then I saw this part.
[–] Lucien@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Is there an alternative that isn't an FBI front? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hand delivered mail permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lucien@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago Written in an invented language only the two of you know permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maoo@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago Not really. Email is inherently broken due to capture by just a few big corps and "anti-spam" requirements. You could try to use GPG but that requires the other party to be on board and for you to have shared keys and for both of you to use secure inboxes, i.e. self-hosted. At that point you might as well use a messaging service that's meant for secure communication from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dead@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago If you want private communication, you have to encrypt your emails with PGP/GPG. You could also connect to the email with a VPN, this is an additional layer of security, not an alternative to GPG encryption. There is no email provider that you can trust. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mittens@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) private/self-hosted smtp servers i imagine. it just doesn't strike me that these email services that offer free inboxes would be any good for privacy concerns (proton mail, tutanota, whatever). but they're good to sign up for shit i suppose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Self-hosting email is a nightmare. The actual self-hosting isn't that bad, but getting your emails not blocked usually is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mittens@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago oh right right i forgot about that lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hand delivered mail permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lucien@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago Written in an invented language only the two of you know permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucien@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago Written in an invented language only the two of you know permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago Not really. Email is inherently broken due to capture by just a few big corps and "anti-spam" requirements. You could try to use GPG but that requires the other party to be on board and for you to have shared keys and for both of you to use secure inboxes, i.e. self-hosted. At that point you might as well use a messaging service that's meant for secure communication from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dead@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago If you want private communication, you have to encrypt your emails with PGP/GPG. You could also connect to the email with a VPN, this is an additional layer of security, not an alternative to GPG encryption. There is no email provider that you can trust. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mittens@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) private/self-hosted smtp servers i imagine. it just doesn't strike me that these email services that offer free inboxes would be any good for privacy concerns (proton mail, tutanota, whatever). but they're good to sign up for shit i suppose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Self-hosting email is a nightmare. The actual self-hosting isn't that bad, but getting your emails not blocked usually is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mittens@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago oh right right i forgot about that lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Self-hosting email is a nightmare. The actual self-hosting isn't that bad, but getting your emails not blocked usually is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mittens@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago oh right right i forgot about that lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mittens@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago oh right right i forgot about that lol permalink fedilink source parent