this post was submitted on 19 Dec 2023
521 points (95.9% liked)

Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

54500 readers
538 users here now

⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.

Rules • Full Version

1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy

2. Don't request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote

3. Don't request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs

4. Don't submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others



Loot, Pillage, & Plunder

📜 c/Piracy Wiki (Community Edition):


💰 Please help cover server costs.

Ko-Fi Liberapay
Ko-fi Liberapay

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 401 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Heh, more of this shit.

Remember, the only reason we can still watch the highly influential 1922 vampire movie Nosferatu today is because some people didn't destroy all their copies despite a court saying they had to.

DISOBEY DESTRUCTION ORDERS.

COPY ALL THE THINGS.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The author in question here was pretty shitty. He wrote his own sequel to called "Fellowship of the King", and then sued Amazon and the Tolkien estate saying they stole elements from his book. He lost, and the Tolkien estate countersued.

The guy played stupid games and won stupid prizes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I read. I don't have much sympathy for him. He sounds like a jerk.

IMO preserving the content is more important than honoring him (or, for that matter, humiliating him).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can't help being curious, who are these "Tolkien Estate" people? I want NAMES!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

That's Christopher, and he died in 2020. Now it's a few different members of the family plus their attorney.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolkien_Estate

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hey this is a pretty interesting story, got a link?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What an interesting read!

Thank you so much. Interesting to hear about Stoker's widow, and her going to the courts to pursue a copyright claim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It's a fascinating story. I often wonder how it would of been perceived at a time when copyright wasn't in a post Disney world.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

What do you mean? It's right in the lead section:

Even with several details altered, Stoker's heirs sued over the adaptation, and a court ruling ordered all copies of the film to be destroyed. However, several prints of Nosferatu survived, and the film came to be regarded as an influential masterpiece of cinema and the horror genre.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Some older dutch movies were released as rentals to the theaters that had to be returned after they stopped playing the movie. These copies were all destroyed and re-releases on DVD now look worse than what it looked like in movie theatres.

The good news is that some theatres hung on to some movies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank goodness. Have those copies resurfaced and gone into the possession of proper archivists and/or research collections?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I don't know how many might be still be around, but I know for a couple of movies where they are. I don't think they have been properly archived and/or converted to digital media yet. I would like to see if there are people in The Netherlands that can do these things and if the current owners of the rolls of film are willing to.