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Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.

On the other end forcing myself to be on Fedora allows me to stay on the DNF world that is compatible with Amazon Linux etc (which I use for work), it has updated packages, it is nice and clean…. Argh, don’t know how to decide!

Thoughts?

I am not in the mood for Debian. I like the Mint approach but I am not a fan of slow rolling releases and also would like to keep myself as close as upstream as possible, the Debian version is the only one that seems reliable enough but, again, it is Debian, the packages are “old”. Pop Os and similar are two hops away from upstream and so I’d rather not.

Is Snap really that bad?

Edit: thank you all for sharing your experience !

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

One thing is to explore different ways to do things, like many projects do, but ubuntu goes further and FORCES people to use their experiments, as if they're some sort of testing ground, not as if they're the most used family of linux distros and the one a lot of people rely on.

Edit: Sorry if my tone was excessive, I think I'm getting grumpy with age.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Haha, I get it. No offense taken.

I don't disagree. But for better or worse, most people don't think that much about their software.

Folks like us who do? We can make informed decisions.

Folks who don't? Canonical's experiments are probably still better than dealing with Windows 11 or macOS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Like snaps. They are different then flatpaks. You can use them for cli apps don’t think flatpaks can be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Flatpaks can also be used to run CLI programs, but it requires using flatpak run <package.name> instead of using the apps standard CLI command. But you can create an alias and should work mostly the same way.

For example, I have neovim on my Debian laptop via flatpak. So in order to run it, you have to do

flatpak run io.neovim.nvim

You can create an alias for that command

alias nvim='flatpak run io.neovim.nvim'

And then you can use the nvim command as normal