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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Self-employed artisans were petty bourgeois.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Petty bourgeois extract labor value from others, small-scale artisans are generally not petty bourgeois unless they have assistants or something.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

not necessarily, the petite bourgeoisie also include those who own and work their own means of production, which would include self-employed artisans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Not so, if you own and work your own means of production but don't profit from others' labor value, you're just a yeoman by another name

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Highly doubt most of the people drawing furry porn for rich guys these days are living a luxury lifestyle of eating caviar and having sex with models in Manhattan or shaking hands with MBS over oil deals

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

don't need to be wealthy, it's about your relationship to the means of production. Petite bourgeoisie just own and work their own means of production. Small business owners can't afford that lavish shit either

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Not the point, please read Marx.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is a disingenous take because the vast majority of artists in the world are likely proletarian. Consider anime artists, do you really think people who are employed by a specific studio and have to do hours a day of back-breaking labor are really... petite bourgoisie? They do not employ themselves, and do not have access to their own means of production.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My real point is that if you don't even know what classes Marx described, you shouldn't try doing Marxist class analysis until you read some theory. No investigation no right to speak and all that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

But I have clearly… Read the theory. Nothing I have said was incorrect