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Marx vs Che (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

For the second paragraph, will it reach the other shore though because it seems that the working class is voting for fascists now?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes it will, no matter how bleak the current context looks/feels/is, it's still a very insignificant portion of history.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hmmm… I am still not 100% convinced that without socialism the working class movement would reach the other shore though.

For instance, see how syndicalism got us nowhere and how the bourgeoisie just took away all the concession they gave syndicates post cold war. See how Black Lives Matter didn't achieve a bigger change due to its lack of association with socialism. The capitalists just defanged the moment and gave bare-minimum concessions to apease the people.

It seems that the working-class movements without socialism are boats that get sunk by the bourgeois missiles and torpedoes.

We need both socialism and the working-class movement to get to the other shore.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

The working class movement is more significant in the long run than electoral politics