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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Do we need to go through what autopilot in a plane or boat actually does again?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter, Tesla cars are marketed to the public which isn't expected to know these things. To probably 90% of people "autopilot" means "drive automatically".

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

To probably 90% of people "autopilot" means "drive automatically".

Based on what?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Based on my usage and understanding of the word being a lay person.

I'm an engineer myself, sometimes there are words that you have to be cognizant of the differences in meaning to other engineers vs lay people or even engineers in other fields. Some words are heavily overloaded, and "autopilot" is kinda one of them (others being "domain", "node", "artificial intelligence", etc.).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tesla markets this feature as "Full Self-Driving Capability." Maybe I'm poorly informed, but to me that means that the car is fully capable of driving itself without human interaction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

FSD is an entirely separate thing. Autopilot is just an LKAS system, or adaptive cruise control.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aha, today I learned that Autopilot is just lane-keeping and adaptive cruise control. I feel that it must be a common misunderstanding to confuse the terms "Autopilot" and "Fully Self-Driving" in the vernacular.

Many other manufacturers refer to lane-keeping systems as "driver assistance," and I believe Tesla is intentionally misleading consumers with the impression that their system is more capable and allows the driver to pay less attention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Until you drive it. You know the capabilities, you know when you can and cannot activate it, you know how often it tells you to look at the road and if you don't prove you've got your hands on the wheel, it disables itself for the drive (you need to park to reactivate it). No Tesla driver thinks autopilot is more than a lane and distance keeping assistance.

Autopilot is a marketing name, that's it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If we do, then they shouldn't have picked a name that most people think does something it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

When you drive a Tesla, it's pretty clear what autopilot is. The name is a marketing term, you can't engage it everywhere and anytime, you've got to keep your hands on the wheel or it disables itself, won't stop at stop signs and red lights, won't do line changes, etc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What does full self driving mean ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Full Self Driving and Autopilot are two totally separate systems.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

do we need to go through the differences in training, aptitude and intelligence between pilots, captains and your neighbor Greg again? Marketing it as "autopilot" to anyone who can sign a car loan is reckless and has killed people and will continue to kill people until they stop

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago

Yep, just like "cruise control" made tons of people drive their car into the ocean thinking they could sail it to popular island destinations.