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Please defederate from threads.net (aussie.zone)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Meta threads will open federation to the fediverse soon, and while this is mainly to mastodon it will still affect lemmy. They are acting like they won't be evil, but let's be real this is Facebook when have they ever done that.

This article which has been trending lately explains some of the issues. https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

This comment here is a simple analogy if you can't be bothered reading the article. https://lemmy.ca/comment/5702922

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Here's my not-at-all-qualified take:

Let the federation ride. If Threads users add meaningful content and activity, then cool.

But the second we see a Meta ad, pull that fucking plug. We should not be distributing their ads for free (or at all).

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but you might have it in reverse. Meta would benefit from lemmy users providing original content. It would basically suck the life out of the smaller instances and people would have no incentive to stick with apps or instances made by the little guys. If Meta started serving ads and we pulled out, it wouldn't mean much. By then, Meta might have adopted most users - all the while stealing our content.

^ Super hypothetical. I'm not a federation expert. But it sounds like that could happen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think lemmy and mastodon are big enough for meta to care about stealing our content.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I think you'd be surprised at how few people make OC for the internet and how those brains operate. I know I'm not porting my content bot over to threads anytime soon. He's very happy on mastodon and writes frequently.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let us have all users from Lemmy, Kbin, Mastodon and probably Tumblr, and none from Meta. Is it so damaging to exclude them? With them comes the Meta fuckery, them dictating rules. It's better without them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Are you planning on signing up for a Meta account? Their rules won't affect anyone who isn't using their instance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

It's not how it works, I believe.

We are as regulated as 4chan.

If they get federated with other big instance, their mil+ audience wouldn't only bring their own shenanigans, it would bring attention from regulating bodies - for one, and for two - Meta's want for control over how fediverse is operated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I would see it as the fediverse being like the UN and Threads being like America. The UN can say whatever they want about their rules and America will and do ignore them due to their size, influence and power.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Once the cats out of the bag, it won't want to go back in.