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Apple’s MacBook Pro memory problem is worse than ever::Apple still sells expensive "Pro" computers with just 8GB of RAM and charges a fortune for more.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I recently had the need for some apple hardware due to customer projects - and ended up buying an air with 16GB of RAM when it was available relatively cheaply.

The keyboard is shit - but keyboards are shit on pretty much any notebook nowadays unfortunately.

Both memory and storage are a problem - the rest is surprisingly nice. I also have a Windows arm notebook from HP, same 16 GB storage issue, but at least the SSD is user replacable.

We should get rid of 8GB base models in general - that's pretty much what you'd expect in a phone nowadays, but not in a computer.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

If you think the keyboard is shitty now, the keyboard is even shittier during the butterfly keyboard era. If you get a mac 5 years ago you'll probably curse the keyboard daily. Their current keyboard is basically the best mac users can get in the past 8 years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What don't you like about the keyboard? It's quiet, low profile, easy to type on quickly, lights up... not sure what else you'd want.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

low profile

that is a problem

easy to type on quickly

not really, doesn't have a clear pressure point, so leads to keys not registering surprisingly often. I also get pain in my hands if I'm working on it for several hours.

I only can do something like 70-80 WPM on that, on a proper keyboard I'm doing slightly above 100.

lights up

Don't care about that.

Additionally half the useful keys (pgup/pgdown/end/home/insert/delete/...) are hidden behind FN combinations.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

doesn’t have a clear pressure point, so leads to keys not registering surprisingly often.

Are you trying to press the keys as lightly as possible or something? Just hit them until they bottom out, it's like 0.1mm more travel than their actuation point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you trying to press the keys as lightly as possible or something?

Pretty much the opposite, I'm usually either typing on a buckling spring keyboard, or on one with Kailh Box Navy switches - which requires quite a bit of force, and both have quite a bit of travel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Everyone’s different. I type 8h+/day on my 2019 (Intel) pro, and if I’m writing text as opposed to code I’m hitting 130wpm consistently and accurately. I’m not a small guy either; it’s hard to find gloves that fit me.

I can’t stand most laptop keyboards and the old butterfly design was awful, but the current gen Mac keyboards are pretty good for me.