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Should sh.itjust.works preemptively defederate from Threads?

Threads is the not-so-new ~~reddit-like~~ twitter-like public forum platform by Meta, the same commercial company behind internet behemoths like Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp. They're working on ActivityPub integration so that they can bridge (federate?) with the fediverse. As far as I know, the focus is on Mastodon instances, but in the future that could include Lemmy instances too.

Some have raised the question, worried about the future of the fediverse or even claiming that it goes against its definition.

What do you think should be done?

EDIT: correction

EDIT.2: The Vote is on! Go make your voice heard. You have until Friday the 29th.

Fediverse instances' status on federation with Threads

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (4 children)

my take on it is that i am completely against any kind of bridging between the platforms. i do think the fediverse in general is in danger, by being a victim of the "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" strategy

as many on lemmy, i use this platform because of its decentralized, open-source, not-for-profit nature, and think the whole fediverse community would be in jeopardy if we don't act

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Exactly. I'm almost always against defederation, but the risk of EEE is why I'm in favor of preemptively defederating.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

would like to had this more informed and well articulated take on why federation with Threads would be bad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

If people are not ready or are not looking for freedom, that’s fine. They have the right to stay on proprietary platforms. We should not force them into the Fediverse. We should not try to include as many people as we can at all cost. We should be honest and ensure people join the Fediverse because they share some of the values behind it.

And that is why I am voting to defed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Defederation is meaningless, what matters is the dev side. Federating doesn't give them anything they couldn't get other ways for slightly more effort. The problems come if you allow contributions the greater community doesn't want to the code itself.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My bigger concern is content being overwhelmed by a flood of accounts that have a different online culture from what has grown and is still developing here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm less concerned about the culture aspect, but there's probably some room to improve how federation works at a technical level so smaller instances aren't crushed if someone subscribes to large communities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

This feels like an uninformed take. Have you interacted with people on Mastodon via a Lemmy instance? They're clueless about the fact that they are replying to a forum post or that there's more than one thread of the conversation going on that most people can see and interact with. The conversations tend to be awkward.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

it seems they are already testing the integration