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YouTube comment deletion is out of control, can't say anything anymore even when completely sensible. Is there a text format (alternate characters) that allows you to bypass detection? (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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[–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

What sensible words are you saying exactly that are requiring alternate spellings to avoid detection?

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  • [+] [S] -27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    It's not even just words. It's phrases that don't contain any bad language at all. If you don't know you don't know. They're silencing free speech. And like I said, completely sensible things that there's no reason to delete, while toxic comments and foul language remain undeleted.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The fact that you wont give examples speaks volumes.

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  • [+] [S] -18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There are lots of different things that are deleted if you look at other people's experiences with the same thing online. Reasonable criticism of governments or corporations and industries, referencing scientific studies, etc. It does not say anything the fact that I'm asking for a solution to this issue and I'm not interested in starting a debate here over the exact content that's being removed. It does not breach any rules, it's unproblematic, and should be allowed. If you don't have a solution, then thanks but I'm not here to discuss why you don't think we should be allowed to say certain things.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How can anyone help if you won't provide specific examples of what is being filtered? Can you provide some example comments that were filtered?

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  • [+] [S] -27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why would you need to know what was being removed in order to suggest a character format that doesn't get deleted? That doesn't make sense to me. The actual content is irrelevant.

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  • [+] [S] -20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No one's been able to answer this very basic question. Just downvoting with no explanation even though your logic is flawed.

    What about knowing the specific content would enable you to suggest a text character that doesn't get removed?

    If you could suggest a text character that doesn't get removed, then knowing the specific content, which is varied anyway, would not change your ability to suggest that text character since you would be able to suggest it anyway.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No one's been able to answer this very basic question.

    Because you are not giving us enough info to work with.

    Imagine you going to a book store and being the clerk in this scenario

    Cust: I am looking for a passage of text from an obscure book. Clerk: Ok, what is the text you are looking for.
    Cust: I don't want to tell you.
    Clerk: ok, what book is it from?
    Cust: I can't say.

    You are being that customer right now. You need to help us help you.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 2 years ago*

    Since your example isn't accurate, I'll modify it to make a more apt analogy.

    Cust: I am looking for a passage of text from an obscure book.

    Clerk: Ok, what is the book you are looking for.

    Cust: It's called "Ancient Unholy Incantations"

    Clerk: oh, why do you want that book? Why why why?

    Cust: I can't really say because it's various things I can't really remember.

    Clerk: Tell me! Or else I can't help. I physically can't. It's not that I don't want to because I don't believe your intentions are good and need convincing. Something... would prevent me from doing so.

    Cust: Ok well it's sort of for a lot of different purposes, like just random stuff, maybe for making my dog happy, or for helping grow my garden.

    Clerk: No, no, tell me more! What is it? You haven't given me enough information. I can't help you!

    Cust: Are you sure it's not just that you don't want to because you assume my intentions are bad?

    Clerk: You are alt-right!!!

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  • [+] [S] -6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I thought you said cunt, lol.

    Sorry I've kind of given up trying to get people to believe me or help me.

    There's no reason you can't theoretically provide a text character that allows to bypass random YouTube comments deletion, unless you don't want to.

    And like I said, it's lots of random comments. I could say something like "Honda is the best car" and it gets deleted. Or, "Wow this guy must be taking creatine". I'm using random examples because that's what it is. Literally just random stuff.

    Maybe you'll empathise, maybe not. Be sure to downvote my comment though ;)

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The reason is easy. There is no text character that bypasses the non-random deletion by channel admins. If you post enough shit, they'll put you on the banlist of their 3rd party automod bots. Every time you post anything while you are on their banlist, your comments will be automatically deleted.

    And guess what: many channel admins actually share their banlists. So you aren't on only one channel's banlist, but on many.

    Post less conspiracy shit, and you won't get banned.

    Your Google account is worthless on Youtube now.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 2 years ago

    And again you're assuming I'm posting "conspiracy shit" and leaving no room for the possibility that YouTube's comment deletion system is completely broken in some cases. There's no reason to remove the completely normal harmless comments I'm posting. Having this much faith in technology and AI to do its job properly is really concerning more than anything tbh.

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  • [+] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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  • [+] [S] -9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm not alt right. I'm left wing. What isn't how free speech works? I didn't even say what the content was that was being removed. You're making a lot of assumptions.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That isn't how free speech works.

    All it means is that the government can't stop you from saying what you want. It doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want with no repercussions.

    YouTube is not the government. It has terms and conditions that you agree to when you sign up. They have a right to delete your comments. You do not have the right to post whatever you want.

    Sorry, but that's the truth of it. If you circumvent the built in filters, then users can still downvote / report you and creators can still delete your messages.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, that's fine. If they want to delete comments that are actually problematic, I don't have a problem with that. But the system is actually broken. Nothing I'm saying is problematic. I'll give you an example. What you just said now could easily be deleted. What I'm saying right now could easily be deleted. Anything I say could be deleted for no apparent reason when there's nothing wrong with it at all. That's what people aren't understanding.

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