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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announced the passing of a law that could render driver’s licenses and other forms of identification from several states invalid, including Vermont. (www.mychamplainvalley.com)

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As of July 1, in addition to Vermont, four other states’ IDs will face extra scrutiny from police, as they may provide forms of identification to applicants who do not give proof of citizenship or legal status:

Delaware
Connecticut
Hawaii
Rhode Island
The law directs Florida police officers to write a ticket to anyone they pull over who has what is now recognized as an invalid license.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These are the out-of-state license classes included in the list:

Connecticut licenses with the disclaimer "Not For Federal Identification."

Delaware licenses that say "Driving Privilege Only" and "Not Valid for Identification."

Hawaii licenses that read "Limited Purpose Driver's License," "Limited Purpose Instruction Permit," "Limited Purpose Provisional Driver's License," and "Not Valid for use for official Federal purposes."

Rhode Island licenses with the disclaimers "Not for Federal Identification," "Driver Privilege Card," and "Driver Privilege Permit."

Vermont licenses that say "Not for REAL ID Purposes Driver’s Privilege Card," "Not for REAL ID Purposes Junior Driver’s Privilege Card," and "Not for REAL ID Purposes Learner’s Privilege Card."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So what's happening is that drivers' licenses which clearly say they're not recognized as ID won't be recognized as an ID? I'm not seeing an issue, then.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

REAL ID is a federal requirement to use a driver's license as a form of ID to fly within the US without a passport. They are still legally acceptable forms of ID for all other purposes. They are legal drivers licenses. You still have to prove your identity to acquire them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't need an ID to drive. You need a driver's license. And these licenses now suddenly don't count in DeSantisWorld.

Driving without an ID is not a crime. Driving without a license is. I can see the distinction being lost when you disagree with the person politically though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The bill specifically states forms of identification, not licenses to drive. I'm not sure identification would fit the definition of full faith and credit, since every state gets to decide what identification means and is required for.

Driver's licenses are a different story. Those would be respected if valid in another state.

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Not saying it's right, but it's probably legal.