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I didn't really notice till now, and searching around I see lots of complaints in various communities for different apps.

Turns out it's intended behavior in Android 14. The only persistent thing about it is that they don't disappear when you hit "clear all", which is something I never do because I dismiss the ones I need to instead of nuking everything.

Feels like a big step backwards and I don't understand the reasoning behind it. It was always possible to dismiss persistent ones if we really needed to (long tap etc)

Is there any workaround to get it back?

Unnecessary backstory:

I use a notification creation app to leave important TODOs as pinned notifications so I see them when I check my phone.

I've missed some and I thought I was setting them wrong. Turns out the notifications can be dismissed accidentally, making the app useless.

My use case isn't that important, I can find some other workflow. But there are other more important apps like blood sugar monitors and home security/alert apps that use persistent notifs for functionality.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

That's great news. I hate undismissable notifications and I always thought they were an awkward workaround for apps that needed to stay in the background and not be terminated or put to sleep by battery saving features

And as long as things keep working, I think dropping this feature is a great idea.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's not so great because now you don't know when an app is running in the background.

It also makes it harder for notifications you actually do want to persist like OPs - I use AccuBatterry and don't want to be able to dismiss by accident.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

now you don’t know when an app is running in the background.

we've always had plenty of apps running in the background that don't use notifications

notifications you actually do want to persist

I think notifications should never persist. There should be an entirely different UI concept for apps that need to have information displayed at all times - like a widgets drawer or shade. Having a notification displayed at all times defeat the purpose of a notification, which should be an ephemeral / momentary display of information, usually time-sensitive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not so great because now you don't know when an app is running in the background.

Not true. This shows at the bottom of the notification shade, tells you how long the app has been running a service and lets you stop it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oohh thanks! TIL. Now I wonder if I need Samsung Health to be always on, to be honest...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Fair enough, I just wish it was a long tap or something instead of a swipe (or having long tap be an option that you could enable)

I like being able to dismiss some, like my voicemail or background apps