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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Humans need to go extinct for the good of every non-human on the planet. We're never going to get a critical mass of people worldwide on the right page to continue increasing our population without wrecking everything.

Live long and die out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

farquaad-point Ecofascist

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And you are going to magically manage energy demand through gentle suggestion?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'll ignore the smuglord response for the onlookers and bite anyway No, I'm not going to "magically" solve anything. Overpopulation is a malthusian reactionary myth and often two steps away from claiming that the poors have too many babies. The reason why the environment is being destroyed is because of capitalism. It's simply not profitable for the people in charge to switch for cleaner types of energy or to look for any solutions whatsoever. The fact that you think the solution to this is not communism, but that everyone should die, is telling. Another comrade has put it better than I can:

The United States, for example, is 4% of the World's population but still uses 25% of the world's resources annually. The United States outsources their pollution and their production to the third world, where the labor is cheapest due to imperialism, and then says "the third world is responsible for the climate change because of their carbon emissions! We need to cut down on the number of people!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Communism is better than nothing, but it's going to have to be a global communism to make a difference, since any one of us on the planet can clearly consume 5x+++ their share of resources annually.

Even if we got 75% of the world population with the program, we could still have a consumption problem 5x that of America, because the greatest consumers will be the last to join the revolution.

Climate Stalin is the only thing that might, might improve the situation we're going to find ourselves in. Other than that, we're just going to pollute ourselves and everyone else to extinction, hence my belief that all non-human flora and fauna would be better off without us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I sympathize with this deeply, but we can't see defeatism as the path forward. Those last hopeless human conflicts won't be good for the non-humans on the planet today either - I dont see humanity going out quietly. We gotta keep trying, and maybe it'll be better in the next life, and for the new people, and maybe they'll be better than us for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Hardly an unpopular opinion these days