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[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Something I think is sort of ironic is that in my neighborhood most of the last mile delivery happens on bike. This isn't because of a lack of automobile infrastructure but because there are too many automobiles. Nowhere to park or even idle the van for a short time.

I do also suspect it's more convenient for the delivery person to hop off a bike at each stop than it would be to park a car and get out etc.

If I were a city planner I'd integrate that system into my strategy. Ripping out every road is of course hyperbole and clickbait, but ripping out every other road seems like a no brainer. But I seriously doubt converting 3/4 or more of the roads for autos into pedestrian/bike/tram/greenspace would shake things up too bad. Just make sure to keep main arteries open for automobiles and ensure there's centralized parking garages (street parking is a blight) within a decent walking distance and I think people who need to have a car in the city will get used to it fast.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey so I come from a european city from 778, with most of the streets having been the same for over 500 years now.

Heineken truck drivers manage to supply bars and restaurants throughout the city with little to no problems and most of that is pedestrian zoning with exceptions for deliveries and it works quite well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

This is an excellent point too - removing streets for general use doesn't necessarily also exclude commercial delivery use and so forth