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Out! Out with them!
Why?
Because their algorithms have a clear negative impact on Europeans mental health and are contributing to the deterioration of democracy? Or because they are thinly veiled front for Chinese intelligence services?
Yes, those could be harmful. How does location of the data center change that? If anything, it's better to have it in EEA for better oversight, no?
The data is already processed in Europe, that doesn't change. The fact that they are getting marching orders from the CCP also doesn't. And even if they were Europeans what they are doing should be a crime.
Okay, so no change in terms of legality of the enterprise. Personally I'm in favor of regulating Youtube and Tiktok to the point that they're truly socially responsible and only slightly profitable but that's mostly irrelevant to data center location discussion.
In terms of benefits of investing in data center in Norway I could list:
So I think this is good news.
Letting people build a Heroin-Cyanide candy factory would also bring jobs, I still think it should be illegal.
That's a fair point but it would require outlawing YouTube too.
One at a time, but comparing A to B, because B is also doing bad things doesnt negate nor justify the impact of A, which in this case, i'd say is worse.
Yes, I believe it is slightly preferable to be under surveillance by an unstable democracy with a history of disregard for other nations laws, than to be monitored by Chinaβs Communist Party, which has previously used such data for oppression and manipulation.
Though i agree and would make, if possible, both responsible for their actions and control over others. And here it also seems, there is more control over the big sea than in Asia, making one marginally better than theother.
Do you truly believe that Google, Meta or other tech giants are not selling your data to CCP if TikTok can supposedly get away with this?
Probably depends on who can force who to which extend and gain how much.
I'd argue the US still has the most control, may that be good or bad..
I dont want my data with any of them, so i prefer smaller alternatives, designed to be more secure, but probably also more of a hassle if stuff breaks..
Sadly these giants probably still get plenty of data because they control most of the internet.
Companies usually don't have to be forced into profit.
that doesn't make sense
China. It all renders down to China.
That's not really an answer. Let me rephrase just in case.
If this data center was to be located outside of EEA, what would be the benefit to Europeans or ByteDance?
None because China.
The answer is so edgy and boomer-y I can't decide if you're 70 or 13.
Somewhere in between. But i have 0 tolerance towards anything China Related. Fuck them.
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