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Second largest Lemmy instance preemptively un-friends Facebook (lemmy.ml)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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Lemmy.ml has now blocked Threads.net

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[–] 6 points 3 years ago (20 children)

Yea agree, not a fan of "Meta". But I think limiting who can use federated networks kinda goes against the federated nature of such networks. What's next, we'll have a centralized blacklist of lemmy instances.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children)

    they did this specially prevent the Embrace, Extend, Extinguish strategy

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    This is mentioned in pretty much every thread but I haven't seen anyone apply the theory to the fediverse. The second step is for threads to create features that lure people over from Lemmy (or activitypub). So are the people saying eee by extension saying they'll move to threads from their current server because threads have a bigger and better development team?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    they'll move to threads because threads will be incompatible with the rest of fediverse (thread essentially defederate themself), and if most content is being posted in threads, they'll move there (since they can't access it from other instance)

    this has happened before, such as

    • MSN messenger breaking compatibility with AOL IM (MSN wins since it got 95% market share)
    • MS Office doing obfuscation to their office file data to prevent FOSS editor like LibreOffice from rendering it correctly
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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I've been saying exactly this since the news dropped. I fully understand people being worried, but I haven't seen a concrete pathway to damage that doesn't involve meta-hating users moving over to a meta product.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    Past performance is indicative of future behavior. Simple as that. Meta has proven that at every single turn they will do what's profitable, not what's best for the user.

    People don't want that infecting this space.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    The problem is when bad actors enter the situation. Meta has no interest in being a part of the community, they want to take it over and commercialize it.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    The problem is when bad actors enter the situation.

    Let people decide on their own what they want to see.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    That's beyond ignorant. There's no place for that bigoted bullshit and if you want to be around it feel free to head on over to twitter.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    There’s no place for that bigoted bullshit and if you want to be around it feel free to head on over to twitter.

    bigot. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

    Describes you more than me. I'm in favor of openness and individual responsibility.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

    Still no. If you feel ostracized because your bigoted viewpoint isn't welcome, then you should take a hint and stfu instead of crying about it. I don't feel bad about not welcoming hatred and for treating it the same way it treats others. Your dog whistles aren't welcome either.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I don’t feel bad about not welcoming hatred

    So text-based Instagram with 70 million regular users and some brand accounts is hatred? Serious reality distortion field you have there. Well, Lemmy.World has not blocked Threads at the moment, so I'm alright and actually not crying at all. It is people like you who want to police what other people look at.

    Maybe you should lobby to block Trump's Truth Social which is an Mastodon instance full of actual racists.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    The nice part about federated networks is that if you disagree, you can just move instances. Nobody is bound to the will of the admins like with traditional centralized social media

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Is there yet a way to fully migrate a lemmy account like a Mastodon one? Otherwise, "just move instances" isn't great advice, it's still having to start over. We need that ability imo or we're losing a major benefit of being federated.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    Meta's decision to work towards federation does need to be taken with a lot of salt. Corporations using open platforms or open source to make their money has always resulted in power imbalances that, left unchecked, may become impossible to solve without concessions from said corporation, or else [X] thing just gets hung out to dry.

    You have to hope the people running that company understand that these problems exist, and actively work against ruining everything for everyone else that relies on it.

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