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Eh, I switched last year and it's really not that different.
I'd assume it's actually easier now by comparison seeing how Windows has kept shoving in ads
Good for you. You represent the entire computer user base, then?
Now tell the millions of people that don’t want to screw around with different distros, broken repositories, software that doesn’t work on Linux, proprietary drivers, etc. etc.
I like Linux a lot, but don’t make it something it isn’t. But this is Lemmy, so yay Linux.
Isn't that a benefit of Linux, having all kinds of different distros and different options available? There isn't a "one size fits all". Just find the one you like and go from there.
How often does this actually happen? I can't think of a time I encountered broken repositories within the last few years of using Linux as a daily driver, I feel like you're exaggerating this. I think the repository system in general is amazing and installing software on Linux is so much better than Windows in about every way really.
This is a fair point, it depends on your use case. If anything you need is only tied to Windows, then yeah you don't have many options unfortunately. But I think for average people its probably fine since basically everything is on Linux nowadays, I guess biggest exceptions are like Microsoft Office and Adobe's suite.
I assume you mean NVIDIA? You can just get a distro that includes them already installed and ready to go like Nobara, or just use one that makes them easier to set-up like Pop OS, if you're uncomfortable installing them on a regular distro. (Though it really isn't that difficult).
Overall Linux isn't for everyone, but I do think it's improving more and more and about at a point now where average users could probably get away with using it instead of Windows in a lot of cases. But it does depend on your use case for sure at the end of the day. Hopefully I'm not out of touch here though lol.
Computers are like cars. People want a car that goes from a to b, like every other car, with no fuss. If you’re really going crazy maybe you look for a manual transmission. They don’t want to mess with computers. They don’t want to know what’s under the hood. They don’t want to have to understand how the CVT works, or how to update a broken repository link via command line. That’s 99.5 of people.
How often do broken repositories happen? Often enough. Biggest reason would be not updating systems and the old repository closed. “BuT WhY wOuLd AnyOnE NoT UpDAtE!!?!” You might ask? Because updating breaks shit. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve had a distro set up exactly how I want, apt-get, now my gnome desktop isn’t working. Or Wine doesn’t work. Or whatever.
Only thing you use is tied to windows… See, that’s the thing. You just tossed that out there like all the windows software has a direct and equally capable equivalent on Linux. That’s not true, and I refer back to my car analogy that 99.5% of people don’t want to screw around with trying to sort out workarounds.
As far as drivers go it’s not just NVIDIA, but everything from touchpads to Bluetooth to fingerprint ID unlocks don’t all have Linux drivers. I actually find NVIDIA to be fairly well supported and haven’t had too much difficulty with it since Steam and gamers have decided that maybe Linux isn’t so bad and have made a lot of effort to keep things updated and compatible.
Out of touch… maybe. Take a trip through the Ubuntu forums some time. Probably the most popular and relatively easy distro to use. There are a ton of posts that just don’t get answers, where people just give up, or have multiple command line entries suggested that deal with everything from permissions, different command modifiers, and extremely basic stuff that doesn’t work like config or make. Again, think about that 99.5% that simply doesn’t want to deal with that shit, much less open a terminal window. They probably don’t even know how to open an admin level CMD window on Windows or even the task manager. Think how computer illiterate most people are where even changing a setting in their cellphone is too much trouble.
Look, we could discuss this all day. One of my chief complaints about the Linux crowd is that they just toss out that everyone should switch while completely ignoring the qualifications of the user base they’re asking to switch and putting that up against the thousands of choices and ways to break Linux that exist. That’s why people like Apple products. They’re hard to break by messing around with settings because Apple won’t let you do anything with the OS. You can still break windows, not as easily as one could before, and linux still breaks itself whether you like it or not.
~~This is why I use Arch~~
I used to recommend Apple over Arch too for the exact reason, but then Wine and Proton drastically improved, especially GE. The only app I use that I can’t get to work or find a very good alternative for on EndeavourOS is
Roblox
(and my fingerprint driver, like you mentioned)
though I don’t speak for all industries of course.
My repositories have never broke for me, thanks to Arch, probably. If you’re really that worried about updates, you should probably use one of these ~~dirty~~ fixed-release LTS distros.
I also have no idea how the kernel works.
I don't know what half of that is, and frankly I don't care lol
Obviously.
This whole platform is just Linux and Trump I swear
What else do you think the world runs on? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not Trump.
I adore Linux but it is not able to do everything I need for my job. I hate my dependence on Windows, but this is the real world.
My media server runs on Ubuntu, and I'd have it no other way
And communism.
Socialism, but yeah. That's the decent side of the platform
They're the same thing for most people on here, and it's based
The term based is so debased by it's overuse.
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