▲ 146 ▼ Bud lite lost more in revenue partnering with a trans spokesperson, than Corona did for having the same name as a virus that caused a global pandemic. (lemmy.jmatyka.com) submitted 3 years ago by Painlessemu@lemmy.jmatyka.com to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world 45 comments fedilink hide all child comments What a time to be alive.
[–] MadWorks@lemmy.world 45 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is incorrect. Sales of Bud Light and Budweiser dropped 24.6% and 9.2%, This is a drop in sales of the product, not the company as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dern@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago (3 children) Would be interesting to know if any of their other offerings experienced an increase in sales permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (2 children) I asked this question of some family members who know people who protested Bud Lite. They said everyone was switching to Miller and Coors instead of Busch, because Busch is also AB InBev. So at least some of the people upset about the trans thing knew enough to avoid the company, not the brand. Which shouldn’t be surprising. People are people everywhere, even if they have some misguided views it doesn’t mean they’re idiots in every aspect of their lives. It’s important to remember that, otherwise it’s very easy to dehumanize those you disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thesalamander@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago A lot of people on social media are acting like this boycott didn't work. It totally did. Love it or hate it, it worked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's a good thing these people are dehumanizing others permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m specifically advocating against dehumanization. You can’t fight fire with fire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can't fight intolerance with tolerance though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can’t fight intolerance with tolerance though. I never said you should. I’m merely saying that we need to remember that the person being intolerant is a person, with the same complexities and nuances as every other person. I’m saying we ought to fight a lack of understanding by being understanding. We should fight intolerance with kindness and correction rather than combativeness. When possible and within reason, obviously. But if our first response to intolerance is shunning and judgement, then there is no path to tolerance for that individual. If our goal is to improve society, it cannot be done with spite and punishment as the initial tools. I wouldn’t be who I am today if people had decided not to engage with my youthful intolerance in a way that led me to think more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well that's very high minded of you, and I applaud your energy for this. I, however, no longer have the time nor the energy to engage with those kind of people. The difference between you and they is that you engaged in good faith and were willing to learn. They engage in bad faith and are only trying to disrupt and divide. Kick them out and move on. They can learn by standing out in the cold. My kindness is reserved for those who abide by our social contract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My original point was that saying something like this: You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people. Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago And if the margins on those other products are better... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago Almost certainly. They boycotted Bud Light and rushed out to buy one of the 9000 other beers AB makes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dern@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago (3 children) Would be interesting to know if any of their other offerings experienced an increase in sales permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (2 children) I asked this question of some family members who know people who protested Bud Lite. They said everyone was switching to Miller and Coors instead of Busch, because Busch is also AB InBev. So at least some of the people upset about the trans thing knew enough to avoid the company, not the brand. Which shouldn’t be surprising. People are people everywhere, even if they have some misguided views it doesn’t mean they’re idiots in every aspect of their lives. It’s important to remember that, otherwise it’s very easy to dehumanize those you disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thesalamander@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago A lot of people on social media are acting like this boycott didn't work. It totally did. Love it or hate it, it worked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's a good thing these people are dehumanizing others permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m specifically advocating against dehumanization. You can’t fight fire with fire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can't fight intolerance with tolerance though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can’t fight intolerance with tolerance though. I never said you should. I’m merely saying that we need to remember that the person being intolerant is a person, with the same complexities and nuances as every other person. I’m saying we ought to fight a lack of understanding by being understanding. We should fight intolerance with kindness and correction rather than combativeness. When possible and within reason, obviously. But if our first response to intolerance is shunning and judgement, then there is no path to tolerance for that individual. If our goal is to improve society, it cannot be done with spite and punishment as the initial tools. I wouldn’t be who I am today if people had decided not to engage with my youthful intolerance in a way that led me to think more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well that's very high minded of you, and I applaud your energy for this. I, however, no longer have the time nor the energy to engage with those kind of people. The difference between you and they is that you engaged in good faith and were willing to learn. They engage in bad faith and are only trying to disrupt and divide. Kick them out and move on. They can learn by standing out in the cold. My kindness is reserved for those who abide by our social contract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My original point was that saying something like this: You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people. Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago And if the margins on those other products are better... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago Almost certainly. They boycotted Bud Light and rushed out to buy one of the 9000 other beers AB makes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (2 children) I asked this question of some family members who know people who protested Bud Lite. They said everyone was switching to Miller and Coors instead of Busch, because Busch is also AB InBev. So at least some of the people upset about the trans thing knew enough to avoid the company, not the brand. Which shouldn’t be surprising. People are people everywhere, even if they have some misguided views it doesn’t mean they’re idiots in every aspect of their lives. It’s important to remember that, otherwise it’s very easy to dehumanize those you disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thesalamander@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago A lot of people on social media are acting like this boycott didn't work. It totally did. Love it or hate it, it worked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's a good thing these people are dehumanizing others permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m specifically advocating against dehumanization. You can’t fight fire with fire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can't fight intolerance with tolerance though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can’t fight intolerance with tolerance though. I never said you should. I’m merely saying that we need to remember that the person being intolerant is a person, with the same complexities and nuances as every other person. I’m saying we ought to fight a lack of understanding by being understanding. We should fight intolerance with kindness and correction rather than combativeness. When possible and within reason, obviously. But if our first response to intolerance is shunning and judgement, then there is no path to tolerance for that individual. If our goal is to improve society, it cannot be done with spite and punishment as the initial tools. I wouldn’t be who I am today if people had decided not to engage with my youthful intolerance in a way that led me to think more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well that's very high minded of you, and I applaud your energy for this. I, however, no longer have the time nor the energy to engage with those kind of people. The difference between you and they is that you engaged in good faith and were willing to learn. They engage in bad faith and are only trying to disrupt and divide. Kick them out and move on. They can learn by standing out in the cold. My kindness is reserved for those who abide by our social contract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My original point was that saying something like this: You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people. Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (2 children) I asked this question of some family members who know people who protested Bud Lite. They said everyone was switching to Miller and Coors instead of Busch, because Busch is also AB InBev. So at least some of the people upset about the trans thing knew enough to avoid the company, not the brand. Which shouldn’t be surprising. People are people everywhere, even if they have some misguided views it doesn’t mean they’re idiots in every aspect of their lives. It’s important to remember that, otherwise it’s very easy to dehumanize those you disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thesalamander@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago A lot of people on social media are acting like this boycott didn't work. It totally did. Love it or hate it, it worked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's a good thing these people are dehumanizing others permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m specifically advocating against dehumanization. You can’t fight fire with fire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can't fight intolerance with tolerance though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can’t fight intolerance with tolerance though. I never said you should. I’m merely saying that we need to remember that the person being intolerant is a person, with the same complexities and nuances as every other person. I’m saying we ought to fight a lack of understanding by being understanding. We should fight intolerance with kindness and correction rather than combativeness. When possible and within reason, obviously. But if our first response to intolerance is shunning and judgement, then there is no path to tolerance for that individual. If our goal is to improve society, it cannot be done with spite and punishment as the initial tools. I wouldn’t be who I am today if people had decided not to engage with my youthful intolerance in a way that led me to think more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well that's very high minded of you, and I applaud your energy for this. I, however, no longer have the time nor the energy to engage with those kind of people. The difference between you and they is that you engaged in good faith and were willing to learn. They engage in bad faith and are only trying to disrupt and divide. Kick them out and move on. They can learn by standing out in the cold. My kindness is reserved for those who abide by our social contract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My original point was that saying something like this: You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people. Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thesalamander@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago A lot of people on social media are acting like this boycott didn't work. It totally did. Love it or hate it, it worked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's a good thing these people are dehumanizing others permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m specifically advocating against dehumanization. You can’t fight fire with fire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can't fight intolerance with tolerance though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can’t fight intolerance with tolerance though. I never said you should. I’m merely saying that we need to remember that the person being intolerant is a person, with the same complexities and nuances as every other person. I’m saying we ought to fight a lack of understanding by being understanding. We should fight intolerance with kindness and correction rather than combativeness. When possible and within reason, obviously. But if our first response to intolerance is shunning and judgement, then there is no path to tolerance for that individual. If our goal is to improve society, it cannot be done with spite and punishment as the initial tools. I wouldn’t be who I am today if people had decided not to engage with my youthful intolerance in a way that led me to think more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well that's very high minded of you, and I applaud your energy for this. I, however, no longer have the time nor the energy to engage with those kind of people. The difference between you and they is that you engaged in good faith and were willing to learn. They engage in bad faith and are only trying to disrupt and divide. Kick them out and move on. They can learn by standing out in the cold. My kindness is reserved for those who abide by our social contract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My original point was that saying something like this: You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people. Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m specifically advocating against dehumanization. You can’t fight fire with fire. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can't fight intolerance with tolerance though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can’t fight intolerance with tolerance though. I never said you should. I’m merely saying that we need to remember that the person being intolerant is a person, with the same complexities and nuances as every other person. I’m saying we ought to fight a lack of understanding by being understanding. We should fight intolerance with kindness and correction rather than combativeness. When possible and within reason, obviously. But if our first response to intolerance is shunning and judgement, then there is no path to tolerance for that individual. If our goal is to improve society, it cannot be done with spite and punishment as the initial tools. I wouldn’t be who I am today if people had decided not to engage with my youthful intolerance in a way that led me to think more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well that's very high minded of you, and I applaud your energy for this. I, however, no longer have the time nor the energy to engage with those kind of people. The difference between you and they is that you engaged in good faith and were willing to learn. They engage in bad faith and are only trying to disrupt and divide. Kick them out and move on. They can learn by standing out in the cold. My kindness is reserved for those who abide by our social contract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My original point was that saying something like this: You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people. Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can't fight intolerance with tolerance though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can’t fight intolerance with tolerance though. I never said you should. I’m merely saying that we need to remember that the person being intolerant is a person, with the same complexities and nuances as every other person. I’m saying we ought to fight a lack of understanding by being understanding. We should fight intolerance with kindness and correction rather than combativeness. When possible and within reason, obviously. But if our first response to intolerance is shunning and judgement, then there is no path to tolerance for that individual. If our goal is to improve society, it cannot be done with spite and punishment as the initial tools. I wouldn’t be who I am today if people had decided not to engage with my youthful intolerance in a way that led me to think more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well that's very high minded of you, and I applaud your energy for this. I, however, no longer have the time nor the energy to engage with those kind of people. The difference between you and they is that you engaged in good faith and were willing to learn. They engage in bad faith and are only trying to disrupt and divide. Kick them out and move on. They can learn by standing out in the cold. My kindness is reserved for those who abide by our social contract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My original point was that saying something like this: You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people. Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can’t fight intolerance with tolerance though. I never said you should. I’m merely saying that we need to remember that the person being intolerant is a person, with the same complexities and nuances as every other person. I’m saying we ought to fight a lack of understanding by being understanding. We should fight intolerance with kindness and correction rather than combativeness. When possible and within reason, obviously. But if our first response to intolerance is shunning and judgement, then there is no path to tolerance for that individual. If our goal is to improve society, it cannot be done with spite and punishment as the initial tools. I wouldn’t be who I am today if people had decided not to engage with my youthful intolerance in a way that led me to think more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well that's very high minded of you, and I applaud your energy for this. I, however, no longer have the time nor the energy to engage with those kind of people. The difference between you and they is that you engaged in good faith and were willing to learn. They engage in bad faith and are only trying to disrupt and divide. Kick them out and move on. They can learn by standing out in the cold. My kindness is reserved for those who abide by our social contract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My original point was that saying something like this: You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people. Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well that's very high minded of you, and I applaud your energy for this. I, however, no longer have the time nor the energy to engage with those kind of people. The difference between you and they is that you engaged in good faith and were willing to learn. They engage in bad faith and are only trying to disrupt and divide. Kick them out and move on. They can learn by standing out in the cold. My kindness is reserved for those who abide by our social contract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My original point was that saying something like this: You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people. Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My original point was that saying something like this: You think the people protesting bud for this are smart enough to know the difference and not buy something else by them? I'd be shocked if we could pick 10 protestors and more than 2 hadn't bought another product by them. isn’t realistic or helpful. That it’s important to remember that people aren’t automatically stupid or lesser just because they are ignorant or misguided. It doesn’t take much energy to remember that even those who are intolerant are still people. Whether you want to engage with them is a different story entirely! I know I rarely have the energy for it these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago And if the margins on those other products are better... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago Almost certainly. They boycotted Bud Light and rushed out to buy one of the 9000 other beers AB makes. permalink fedilink source parent