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Over at avforums.com I've heard a while ago that a user was told by the BBC tech support that the app has all those limitations because of the lack of "MPEG-DASH" support on Apple TV.
So the solution would be that the BBC does some extra work to find workarounds for Apple TV or Apple would have to add support for "MPEG-DASH" in tvOS. I don't think any of this will happen.
I think this is similiar to Netflix not supporting interactive content on Apple TV because they say there is no support for "seamless branching". Or Spotify not rolling out their new "TV experience" to Apple TV because they can't use the same cross-platform code.
So to me it seems that we can also thank Apple for the state of some apps. Not supporting some standards and technologies in tvOS that are supported on many other devices. And I think it's understandable that some app providers don't want to do time and cost intensive extra work for the Apple TV device that has a relatively low market share.
Really this is just an excuse for the BBC’s shitty behavior. Why would anyone expect different devices to have the same solution? BT sports were able to deliver 4K content, Netflix, Disney, Amazon are all able to do so as well. The truth is they just don’t see the value, probably because of market share. HLS vs Dash isn’t the barrier they are making out. They receive public money, they should be obliged to provide a similar service on all their supported devices.
Won't disagree on that. I think if they would really try, they would find a way to do all those things on Apple TV. I had an app from a german broadcaster that also lacked subtitles support for a long time. But a while ago they finally added support. Although you can see that the subtitles don't respect my style settings. So I guess they are using some workaround. And I could imagine that subtitles support lacked because of the same reason.
But on the other hand I think it's also true that Apple is kind of ignorant sometimes in some cases. And thinks they can afford to do things differently than everyone else. And regarding phones and tablets they can. Because they have a leading position there. But not when it comes to streaming boxes.
But what are they doing differently? HLS vs moeg-dash? HLS is just as popular as dash and was around before it. It’s unrealistic to expect everyone to support the BBC’s preference when there are two very popular protocols.
But obviously there is broad support for MPEG-DASH on other devices. Because otherwise the app would have the same limitations there too. But I’m pretty sure that those devices will also support HLS. So you could also argue that if there are two very popular protocols out there, you should support both. And that you can’t expect from the BBC to change their protocol just because of that one streaming device out there.
But I don’t want to take a side on this. In the end it’s just the usual blame game of big companies. And the customer has to pay the price for it.
Given the fact everything supports HLS, the BBC choosing Moeg Dash is a weird decision.