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Bill Gates says a 3-day work week where 'machines can make all the food and stuff' isn't a bad idea::"A society where you only have to work three days a week, that's probably OK," Bill Gates said.

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[–] [email protected] 261 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I don’t care what one of the richest people in the world thinks about labour and work/life balance. I care what the average person thinks.

But he’s right about this.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You should, because they are the ones who will be making the decisions.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Until enough of us say that we don’t care what they think, and we demand better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

yea! lets hope really hard and politicians might start taking hope as bribes for legislature

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

And their decisions equate to: how can we employ the fewest number of people with the least benefits and make the most profit off what we’re selling?

But definitely don’t consider that under- or unemployed people don’t have the money to spend on making those profits happen.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, every debate about reducing the number of cars always ends at something like "too many jobs are involved in the car industry, so we need to preserve these jobs, and also people need cars to go work in these factories". I feel like there will hardly be a deep environmental breakthrough if it doesn't come with a deep social change.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I would rather work down the road at a bakery than drive to the next town to be an engineering apprentice.

Only one of them pays, however.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

"We're too deep in the hole we've dug for ourselves. Just keep digging and hope we eventually come out the other side." That's what that logic effectively equates to: doing the same stupid thing and hoping it eventually works out for you.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Companies would automate and save on employees, making people poor. Automation only makes sense if basic universal income is applied

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

The “””end goal””” would be people working half the time, earning half the money, and stuff costing half as much to make and half as much to purchase.

The issue is we have to force them to translate the manufacturing cost decrease in a price decrease, or it’s never going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

A reduction in work hours is also a step forward until UBI is instated. If I make the same amount doing 4 or even 3 days of work in a week, while automation does the rest, that works for me. The idea is that people need to work less and make the same if not more. UBI or a reduction in work hours are both good paths forward. UBI being the ultimate goal.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If people are that poor they will just deautomate the machines in protest until UBI happens.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People don’t have that kind of power. Especially poor people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

A person doesn't, but people certainly do. And a small number can do a surprising amount if they're coordinated enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The companies will decide the level of automation

But who will be able to purchase what the machines make?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I don't care what he thinks, but I care that he has a platform that others in his class listen to and may respect. It's not a position you hear often from those with a lot of wealth. I'm ok with progress coming from any direction, even if it's self-serving in some form, and I do think it's self-serving.